Ghosts In The Machine?

13/5/2024

What if everything you thought you knew was awash with distortions, semi-truths, or full on lies? Your perception of your own memories are surely reality as far as you can see or remember.

Did Ronan O'Rahilly take time out in 1962 to see Mrs J Kennedy in London? Her young daughter had captured his imagination playing in the White House, so much so, that he planned to name a radio station after her.

Is that true or is that false? Do you know the timeline? How can you find out? Was Radio Caroline named after the very young Caroline Kennedy?

The ghosts in the machine have been playing with your perception for a very long time. Did you buy into any of the wars since you were born? Did you see them as just, necessary, or vital for the defense of freedom loving people? Perception is reality after all isn't it? Or have you joined the 'Woke' generation where feelings are more important than facts?

Well if you just don't care, or think so what! that's is after all your own business. On the other hand, it's not to late to wake up and realize that perception is not actually reality.

224 Comments

Ghost Writer

14/5/2024 11:48:15 am

When did Georgie Fame sign to EMI records, was it 1962 or 1963? Are there any fun loving anoraks out there who still believe Ronan gave him his big break? I get your perception is reality thing, I fear this will go way over he heads of most anoraks, maybe they will prove me wrong ha ha

Charles Cowper Ross - died on August 7, 1985

14/5/2024 05:08:44 pm

Charles Cowper Ross was the stepbrother of Ian Cowper Ross who invented a character called Paul Shaw who absorbed many of the real life experiences of Charles' real life.

When he was buried a tombstone was inscribed with an epitaph that he wrote:

“What will be said
When I am dead
Of what I used to do?
They liked my smile?
I failed with style?
Or, more likely Who?”

James McGregor

15/5/2024 12:04:17 am

OMG What really gets me about this ongoing piffle is that somehow MCS or PM, whatever manager man, is not allowed to have a station that has a particular name. I thought this was a simple although apparently frequently contested point of trademark that so far has been upheld by this man who has it

There are dozens of stations and stream with that specific or another station name

Why the fing fig does another man think OFCOM are going to pick apart who was a instigator inventor, invigorator of another similar named station 60 years ago for to the extent that the current name holder is a fraud and did not deserve a licence?

This is nonsence. Who created Harrods?, who Created Bon Marche, who created Boots, who created Israel, who created the Nazi Party

Do we need Putin to tell Tucker the history of Russia in half an hour of simple shoulder shrugs and sentences

90% of press and public will say anything linked to words pirate, radio and ship = Radio Caroline

Look at the recent Lv 18 fire - "it's the Radio Caroline ship"

Mervyn on the one hand says the AM licence is a top secret gov backhander to keep secrets safe then on the other says it's tin pot nonsence which no one cares about

There is no secret to keep safe you blithering idiot, ship used as pirate radio ship, synonymous with offshore radio is rescued and loved and licked by fans and keeps the same name as when the whole endeavour started with

The only two vocal people on Earth who vocally decry this is an ex DJ who says it's now a pale fraud of a once ship based radio station and a blogger who says this is the equivalent of raising the Graf Spee and rebuilding the Reich Chancellery

A Lesson for James from Mervyn

15/5/2024 12:02:20 pm

You obviously don't understand the issue at all.

But let me clear up one point regarding your obvious but unnamed reference to Neil Gates. Neil is absolutely correct. What Malcolm has is not a 'free radio' (or American format radio) station.

By terms of his company licence Malcolm is forbidden to sell sponsored time to religious groups. That is part of the American concept. That ban goes back to John Reith in 1922 under an agreement with the Crown Post Office which gave the original BBC its licence. In his own book, Reith made it very clear that the British People were too stupid to be allowed freedom of speech and expression on the airwaves.

Clearly what Malcolm CAN do is what the BBC can do and every commercial station can do. What Malcolm cannot do is sell time to religious groups or political groups. In other words music is okay but speech is not.

That difference between what Malcolm is doing now and what Neil could do on the High Seas is what makes Neil correct and James a failure in broadcasting law and history.

Now say "sorry" to Neil.

Board Waiter

16/5/2024 11:06:43 am

I see that the anonymous Mr Board Watcher has reposted James piece over on Garry Stevens slowly dying board. Is he also No Change and Nick all wrapped up into the one person. They all turn up at the same time to pat each other on the back which leaves me thinking they are.

Busboy here to clear away James

16/5/2024 11:18:51 am

Board Watcher gets James McGregor reposted on Garry Stevens' Board which makes me wonder whether No Change and Nick are actually James McGregor. I would have suggested Garry, but at least James can spell and seems to have a good command of general knowledge, even though he lacks he skill of critical thinking to make use of it.

If James and BW and NC and Nick are all the same person, then does that mean that on the GS Board there are really only 3 people with Neil Gates representing the entire contrarian viewpoint?

Board Watcher

16/5/2024 11:52:39 am

No, I an not.

Mike (Admin)

16/5/2024 11:14:21 am

I have not let a few comments through today. If you wish to simply point score against Mervyn without any substance you ain't gonna see the light of day here.

One idiot stated that nobody ever listened to the religious broadcasts on Radio Caroline! Really? If you came along with evidence to support that then fine, but stupid sweeping statements just go to show you know nothing of value. The continuation of paying to be heard was based on feedback that there was an audience listening, measured through mailed responses among other methods.

Board Watcher

16/5/2024 11:58:40 am

While I'm here, perhaps you can produce evidence that there was an audience listening. I do know that I personally would always tune out when such programmes were transmitted, as did all of my contemporaries. We were only interested in the music. Religion was not at the forefront of our minds in those times!

YOU DON'T EXIST

16/5/2024 05:50:53 pm

You are a name and not a person and consequently you have no contemporaries because you do not exist as a person.

Mervyn and Broadcasting Laws of the USA and UK

16/5/2024 01:08:23 pm

Advertisers who sell pictures of Jesus (lol) as in Wolfman Jack on XERF, or messages about the return of Jesus causing listeners to change their entire way of living as in John Reith's father and Billy Graham in the 1950s, whose messages were certainly broadcast by the BBC, or the Lutheran Hour 'Bringing Christ to the Nations' heard over hundreds of radio stations in many countries, all used the radio because listeners responded with financial contributions.

But what made the American System (offshore radio pre-MOA) different, was that it promoted freedom of speech and expression. On the other hand, the Church of England today is still presided over by a King whose laws in England are supreme. Anyone who wants to promote, say a Catholic, or a Baptist, or dare I say it, Islamic, Buddhist or other religious viewpoint, can only do so by being given a privilege to do so - with limitations attached.

Herbert W. Armstrong sustained the pop music on the offshore stations because his message was not limited by censorship, and it did bring in response from listeners.

In America, the government is FORBIDDEN by the US Constitution from setting up a State Church, and thus, freedom of speech and expression is a guaranteed constitutional RIGHT.

It is NOT a RiGHT in the UK, because it is a mealy-mouthed PRIVILEGE bestowed by a KING - who John Cleese rightly mocked as a kind of Monty Python joke for real, during the recent Coronation.

The fact of the matter is that NEIL GATES is CORRECT.

Malcolm Smith has yet another State-run radio station. Yes, it can play music, but so can the BBC who can do it better. So do the many other commercial radio stations in the UK. It is why Radio Luxembourg signed off.

If you don't use critical thinking to assess anything of note, that is your business, but where bombs and bullets start killing and maiming is when a religious slogans are chanted by students with little historical or religious education to know what they are really doing.

Human beings ignore the fact that they are ALL born to die. This world was not created by them, nor will it be preserved by them. They are guests on this Planet courtesy of something so GREAT and so POWERFUL that all of the brainpower and scientific achievements of mankind cannot remotely begin to match it.

That is why so many religious views exist. Everyone of them is a manmade assessment of the short duration of human life and what it means.

Interpreted for anoraks it means that no human being has the RIGHT to censor and to limit freedom of expression on air, in print or on a soap box - unless it is for noise abatement. You can always turn off a radio, and refuse to read a newspaper, but it is your RIGHT of freedom to CHOOSE what YOU will do.

Correction

16/5/2024 05:46:05 pm

"Malcolm Smith has yet another State-run radio station. Yes, it can play music, but so can the BBC who can do it better. So do the many other commercial radio stations in the UK."

It is state licenced, not state run, and it is a question of playing different music, not better or worse. Different has mostly been Caroline's USP throughout it's sixty years.

Let's not get into the 'it's not Caroline' argument again. That's been done to death and just comes down to a difference of opinion/interpretation.

RentaGhost McGregor

16/5/2024 02:27:17 pm

It's a shame my reply to Mervyn was nixed yesterday. Putting it simply without the truth and humour Garry credits me with at last, apart from initials

There is nothing for me to apologise to NG for

Paradoxically he is firmly of the man in his time and place throughout the decades offshore and defends him as boss man

This has nothing to do with who listened to "Religion" - a comment I certainly did not as an idiot make, because some IE GCHQ were very interested in listened to all the Viewpoint WMR guff, and it was very worrying to them and wireless world stability

My understanding is that NG thinks a only "free" Caroline can be at sea with him trusted to be in sole charge in emergencies. Rather like Peter Chicago without the practical maritime brains. Playing the contempory of a CHR SAW AOR format (oldsters look that Peter Phillips term up)

The freedom to be paid to broadcast trash to stay afloat has never been mentioned by Neil except his own in house fantasies of "Brother Stairecase owes me $0000 for my shortwave podcasts'"

Mervyn knows his case is just a house of straw - which is simply a difference of opinion over the precise £ shillings and pence LSD origins of a household name that generally know one knows much about but knows the brand name

Kellogg cornflakes anyone - finger licking good cures for those who like to amuse themselves by playing with themselves

Now say sorry to me, Mervyn and respect the fermented syrup of medicated education

Mervyn to James

16/5/2024 05:54:15 pm

Your comment as 'James McGregor' leads me to think that you are Board Watcher and many other names. The original James McGregor was off the wall but not stupid which your post clearly is.

Butterfly on the Wheel, hopes Mike did his bit

16/5/2024 02:30:15 pm

"The continuation of paying to be heard was based on feedback that there was an audience listening, measured through mailed responses among other methods."

REPLY

"One way or another these letters of support were received"

An Analogy

16/5/2024 06:04:29 pm

The current Mini is nothing like the original Mini. They share no common parts. Mini's are not made by the same manufacturer. There are some styling cues and the current trademark owner is not the original. The home page of Mini.co.uk has the banner 'Heritage and Design" and the page goes on to affirm the connection with the original.

Are BMW therefore guilty of fraud and extracting money by false pretences?
If so, will Mr Hagger be pursuing that?
How is this example (and there are many) any different from Radio Caroline?

Reality Check

16/5/2024 10:12:53 pm

BMW who currently make the Mini make no claims whatsoever to be linked to the original! Why would a quality car maker liken themselves to British Leyland? It's just a marketing name, with a little nod to the original shape (but not size as it's not small at all). If the current Radio Caroline made it clear they appreciate the original but in reality sixty years on have no business or other relationship to the sixties version then all would be fine. Anoraks want it all ways despite the facts, which is pretty sad on a good day.

"The Sad and Lonely Man" Clinical Report

16/5/2024 07:10:53 pm

"Barnacle Bill" is the latest name of Board Watcher and a string of other identities that love the same words about "a very sad and lonely man with a massive chip on his shoulder."

It is our conclusion that not only is Garry Stevens off the rails mentally for posting this stuff under a multitude of names, but it is no wonder that Dave Martin wants nothing to do with him.

On the other hand, Dave Martin is also cohabiting with individuals who also engage in the same practice because they cannot address the specifics of any sensible discussion.

Board Watcher

16/5/2024 10:25:12 pm

No, it isn't - again.

Jacob Marley

17/5/2024 12:00:21 am

Why is James McGregor constantly allowed by Garry and Dave to keep stirring up this shite?

Question!

16/5/2024 07:25:35 pm

"Posted by Eric Jay on May 16, 2024, 5:05 pm, in reply to "Jimmy Ross"
There was a guy who climbed aboard the Ross in 1987 as a presenter. He was allocated the overnight slot. Off he went to do his programme but after a short time the others tuned in but all they could hear was the record going click, click, click. They searched high and low before finding him in an isolated part of the ship. He then stayed in his cabin until the tender eventually took him off. Never spoke a word on air.

Now what was his name, Mike……."

Anyone know who this is?

Mike (Admin)

16/5/2024 10:16:37 pm

I am pretty sure Chris Edwards covered this in Offshore Echoes many years ago but as I don't have the time or inclination to check it out, Mikes answer is 'dunno'.

H Rider Haggard

16/5/2024 11:52:35 pm

There is a more correct answer

Jim Murphey of the yard knew who it was but could not quite put the finger on him without getting into all slanderous games of fiddlesticks and quidditch

It was a long time ago

Jimmy Ross

16/5/2024 08:05:26 pm

Posted by Eric Jay on May 16, 2024, 5:05 pm, in reply to "Jimmy Ross"
There was a guy who climbed aboard the Ross in 1987 as a presenter. He was allocated the overnight slot. Off he went to do his programme but after a short time the others tuned in but all they could hear was the record going click, click, click. They searched high and low before finding him in an isolated part of the ship. He then stayed in his cabin until the tender eventually took him off. Never spoke a word on air.

Now what was his name, Mike…….

Trebor King

16/5/2024 08:07:26 pm

There was man named Board Watcher who had a string of other silly names and he regularly appeared on the Garry Steven Board.

Now what was his name Mike .................?

Lord Haw Haw

16/5/2024 10:20:37 pm

Oh that was me, how embarrassing, after they executed me I thought I would be left alone, except for the odd BBC/Government sponsored hit piece. Ho Hum I will just have to keep spinning in me grave. Germany Calling --- Germany Calling.........

Come on George

16/5/2024 11:34:02 pm

George Shuttleworth is convinced that he has the talent to win the Isle of Man TT races, despite what his neighbours back home in Wigan may think. During the trials, the brakes go on George's bike, 'The Shuttleworth Snap', which he made himself. As a result, he breaks the TT lap record, becoming an instant motor-cycling star. As the big race approaches, George soon realises that other jealous riders will stop at nothing to make sure he does not take part in the race.

He was only executed because he gave up his Irish passport and that was a loophole in the law

17/5/2024 01:47:40 am

He was only executed because he gave up his Irish passport and that was a loophole in the law. He was not American

The legal issue regarding Caroline

16/5/2024 10:32:41 pm

1. Neil Gates is correct - Malcolm Smith's State run Caroline is not a 'free radio station'.
2. A 'free radio' station is an American Format radio station - by constitutional law.
3. Malcolm Smith's Caroline is run by the Crown (State) which FORBIDS him to sell religious or political time.
4. The issue comes down to one thing: For whatever his motivation, Neil Gates is correct, and that is why Malcolm's Caroline cannot ever be a 'free radio' station.
5. The dividing line goes back to the birth of British and American broadcasting.
6. By accident of circumstance and location, in 1964 Radio Caroline adopted the American system of broadcasting.
7. Anoraks will not, because they cannot, accept the fact that no matter what his own reason is, NEIL GATES IS 100% CORRECT - Malcolm's Caroline is NOT a 'free radio' station and never can be. It is a CROWN (State) controlled flea-bite.

Mervyn Hagger

17/5/2024 08:28:27 am

I asked if anyone is prepared to address what I have now defined as the "Neil Gates Question", and all that has come back is a bunch of nonsense about cars and now Lord Haw Haw.

Neil Gates claims that Malcolm Smith's station called 'Caroline' is not a free radio station. The definition of 'free radio' in law and in all major works about the development of broadcasting, is free access to the airwaves for speech and expression.

Malcolm Smith does not have a licence to operate a 'free radio' (American Format) station. That has never been available in the UK. Hence Radio Luxembourg.

If you want music you can have music. The BBC promoted the Beatles - long before Radio Caroline came along in March 1964. Today there is music on tap from all kinds of stations 24 hours a day.

Malcolm is only doing what everyone else is doing, only he is operating a very small station while LYING that he is running a station like the 1964 Radio Caroline or even the Neil Gates' version of Radio Caroline.

The fact is that Malcolm Smith cannot, by law run a free radio station using his present licence and the CROWN/STATE won't give him such a licence.

That is the issue here.

Neil Gates is correct.

Now prove that Neil Gates is wrong.

You can't because the facts, the law says and all of British broadcasting history from before the birth of the original BBC, and station MZX, says that Neil Gates is correct and that anoraks are loonies making false and silly claims to deceive other people.

Malcolm Smith is running an ILLEGAL WEB SITE because it is making FALSE CLAIMS about his station being related to Radio Caroline in 1964, or even the Neil Gates' version.

Now without going off course talking about cars, etc., etc., address the Neil Gates claim.

I say that Neil Gates is 100% correct.

Neil Gates is regenerated as Black gay woke Dr Whodunnet

17/5/2024 12:55:34 pm

Not charitable'

The Fundraising Regulator has confirmed to the BBC it has opened an investigation into Depher Community Interest Company (CIC) to “determine whether or not its fundraising has breached sections of the Code of Fundraising Practice”.

The four key values which underpin the code are that fundraising must be legal, open, honest, and respectful.

The regulator said it could not comment further while the investigation was ongoing.

The BBC also contacted GoFundMe, Crowdfunder and JustGiving regarding more than 28 appeals found across their sites, raising more than £1.2m for Depher CIC.

A GoFundMe representative said safety was paramount for its users and it would cooperate with any investigation.

A Crowdfunder statement said: “We encourage all project owners to be absolutely transparent about their aims and what they will spend funds raised on.”

JustGiving said it took any allegations of wrongdoing “extremely seriously”.

James Anderson
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Image caption,
James Anderson also received a Pride of Britain Manchester Special Recognition Award in 2022

The Charity Commission has confirmed to the BBC it refused three applications from Depher CIC to become a charity.

The first, in 2020, was rejected for being incomplete.

In 2022 and 2023, the Commission concluded that the “organisation was not charitable”.

“We were not satisfied how those in need of assistance were being identified, how their charitable needs were being assessed and how the services provided met a charitable need,” a spokesperson told the BBC.

As a CIC Depher operates in the same way as a limited company, but it also provides a defined public benefit, such as using its profits to benefit a community in some way.

The CIC Regulator would not confirm or deny if it was currently investigating but Mr Anderson told the BBC that he was working with the regulator.

James Anderson’s DEPHER CIC
Image caption,
James Anderson’s Depher CIC is not a registered charity

Since 2019, Depher has posted hundreds of stories about acts of kindness it says it carried out and used photos of vulnerable people.

The Information Commissioner's Office said it had received four complaints regarding the firm.

The watchdog said: “All organisations must be clear and transparent with people about how and why they collect and intend to use their data.

"This ensures people can make a fully informed decision about their personal information and know what they are consenting to.”

Mr Anderson pledged to return some of the donated money connected to specific misleading posts or safeguarding issues raised by the BBC.

The plumber told the BBC he was looking for forgiveness from the country, adding: “I apologise, I really do apologise... I’m really sorry and I will make amends. “

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Board Watcher (and not anyone else)

17/5/2024 05:06:15 pm

Everything evolves and adapts to changing times and circumstances. Things that were once possible no longer are. Move on.

JR Ewing

18/5/2024 01:53:26 pm

Get the hell out of my office Digger Barnes and take Barnacle Billy and original Saint Nicky and Nigel Lewis Oily Pump with you out of the Gates of my Board room watcher

Charles Darwin Awards

17/5/2024 08:05:22 pm

A secondment form Board Watcher. Things that were once not possible, now are, like worldwide HI Fidelity at safe low cost. Move on and up with the museum of the BMW mini memories and let bygones be bygones and love and peace and spiritual contention blossom in your hearts. Trump to win

Don't Scare The Children

18/5/2024 08:43:00 pm

"Trump to win"

By a landslide unless the Democrats steal it again. And the UK thinks it has open borders!!!!!!

'Free' Radio Caroline

18/5/2024 07:50:38 am

Show me where Radio Caroline publcally claimed to be or intended to be a 'free' Radio station as defined by Hagger. Show me where the originators of Radio Caroline intentions were anything other than to make money.
Show me where the broadcasting of religious content was for anything other than deriving income.

Steady on Cowboy

18/5/2024 08:53:08 pm

Whoa, relax a bit, you'll give yourself a heart attack if you don't just chill a bit.

Better idea you do your own work and show us where it did not. Caroline 648 is a government puppy at best and an old age peoples radio home for grumpy old anoraks and those who can no longer live in reality.

Nobody listened to the religious broadcasts according to a few anonymous ex spurts, but in reality they had a bigger audience than the current cardboard cut out pretending to be blood line linked to the original station. It's all pretend baby, it's pure nostalgia and tribute bands for the geriatric ward. Ronan would have hated a British government licensed station, that's why Smithy runs him down so much these days, he knows that but dare not bite the hands that feed the epicenter of free radio (Rochester and some pensioners bedroom studios).

Mister Show Me

18/5/2024 09:18:27 pm

It is the anoraks who use the term 'free radio' and it is Neil who says that Radio Caroline with a licence is not a free radio station.

You do like to change the subject.

By the way, I am Mister Show Me to you.

Garry Stevens v. Dave Martin Idiot Debate

19/5/2024 09:14:09 am

Clearly you must be a Garry Stevens' Idiot Anorak, because Dave Martin who embraces Malcolm Smith's Caroline, because David Martin calls himself a 'Legendary Free Radio Operator' and his Board the 'Pirate / Free Radio' forum.

But you two groups of rival anoraks have one thing in common, you are both liars and idiots who deny the truth of reality.

You really should read George Orwell's novel 'Nineteen Eighty-Four' because it is about YOU.

The nail in Ray Clark's coffin

19/5/2024 11:26:49 am

There is one major problem with the lies told by Ray Clark, and that major problem is the facts.

He is now firmly entrenched in an international LIE about the BBC, and t is one that he cannot explain away.

It has to do with the starting date (year) of the original Radio Caroline, and that lie is going to sink Ray Clark along with Garry Stevens and Dave Martin who boasts about his promotion of 'free radio'. (Another liar with a major lies hung around his neck.

I will leave it up to you to figure out what the Ray Clark big lie is, and what the supporting Dave Martin lie is. They are in one sense not the same lie, but when everything is considered - including Garry Stevens and even Mike Leonard and all the rest - especially Malcolm Smith - then the burial pit for them all must be surely be just around the corner in a mass grave.

Rusty nails

19/5/2024 10:18:47 pm

"I will leave it up to you to figure out what the Ray Clark big lie is'

Nah, those thick twats need you to explain it

This won't wash, Ray Clark is a promoting a lie and he knows it.

19/5/2024 04:21:04 pm

Posted by Mike Barraclough on 19/5/2024, 9:56:24, in reply to "Re: For once an accurate story about R Caroline. "
I posted this comment when the Felixstowe and Offshore Radio Facebook page posted the article/video last week:

The Beatles might not be the best example to quote on the lack of time given to pop music on the BBC Light Programme. They had many live performances including their own 15 part series. All down to Brian Epstein approaching the BBC and getting them an audition at BBC Manchester in February 1962. There was plenty of other music that appealed to my then age group you didn't hear even on Saturday Club.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_at_the_BBC_(Beatles_album)

Post on the audition on the Beatles Bible website
https://www.beatlesbible.com/1962/02/12/radio-audition-bbc-broadcasting-house-manchester

Ray gave a smile and a thumbs up to my comment, said the interview/video it was all done in haste but probably a better example for an American audience than the Dubliners

Ray Clark lied on camera to ABC-NEWS

19/5/2024 04:59:00 pm

Ray Clark told views while holding up his book, that it is the true story because he interviewed the people who created Radio Caroline in 1964.

But he did not.

He never interviewed Charles Orr Stanley.

It was Chris Edwards working with Mervyn Hagger who discovered the hidden truth that Ray Clark still denies and instead, he turns to Ian Cowper Ross who is promoting the lie for his own financial benefit. Ray Clark is a pawn in a bigger game, and so is Malcolm Smith.

But the fact of the matter is that the LAST person to tell anyone the true story about Radio Caroline is Ray Clark.

The more he promotes his big lie the more he is setting himself up to be target number one to be exposed as a liar and thus a thief by taking money from readers under false pretenses.

He can't keep claiming ignorance as an excuse, because he is now into his 3rd rerun of his story.

The bottom line is Ray Clark is lying and he knows that he is lying.

Chris Edwards

19/5/2024 08:06:16 pm

No one has interviewed Charles or John Stanley - not Ray Clark, not Mervyn Haggar or myself. There is no concrete proof that the Stanley's were involved with Radio Caroline, only supposition, based on a paragraph in Charles Stanley biography, and a statement in the Pye archives that remains unconfirmed..

Mervyn Hagger

20/5/2024 09:10:10 pm

Charles and John are deceased, but their lives and their activities were highly documented while they were alive. Now Chris you know that you found a document that opened the door to finding a wealth of information, and that includes links to the proof of who financed Radio Caroline and why. You know that Ronan O'Rahilly was a fraud - I shared a lot of research material with you, but for some reason you want to cling on to the Ian Cowper Ross version of events. Right now I am putting together the Ian Cowper Ross version that was published in 2021, but I am fairly sure that you have not read it, but it is quite amazing how many lies can go unchallenged when no one has any desire to engage in critical thinking. That is sad, Chris, very, very sad.

James

19/5/2024 08:49:28 pm

There are so many alleged liars now apparently lying and vying with everyone else for attention of being the knowledgeable hero know it all of of this that and the other I feel I get a better understanding of the world looking out of the window and seeing a blackbird picking a worm after the rain has softened the ground or a cat basking in the sun looking for a bird and then yawning with the exhaustion of getting up and chasing it

Caroline Coastal

19/5/2024 08:56:31 pm

A couple in their 20s have decided to live their lives as if it were the 1940s.

Liberty Avery, 24, and Greg Kirby, 29, from Ditchingham in Norfolk, dress in traditional clothing every day and own vintage furniture from the era.

They go on 40s-themed holidays, own a 1942 American Jeep and, of course, dressed in 40s finery for their wedding day.

Mr Kirby said: "It's just a simple life, really."

Peter C

19/5/2024 09:13:29 pm

I just overrode the filters. The filters were set at what I wanted them to be. Which was anything to splash over Student radio, RTE and Laser. If you have a problem with that, hard luck, how many worldwide girlfriends in Holland have you had? I knew the whole enterprise would grind to a halt with or without me. It became a pointless existence

The Ian Cowper Ross authorship of the Radio Caroline Story

20/5/2024 05:45:55 pm

Under preparation at this time, is the authentic reproduction of the 2021 written and published words of Ian Cowper Ross about the 1964 creation of Radio Caroline.

He is still alive.

His words will be accompanied by Commentary with documentation,but the text by Ian Cowper Ross will not be amended or altered from the author's intended meaning.

This is a time consuming project that will take awhile to complete, but everyone will be able to read it free of charge once it is completed.

Mervyn Hagger's Questions for Chris Edwards

20/5/2024 09:20:10 pm

Tell me Chris, what do you know about Radio Yorkshire and Ross Radio and the Isle of Man, Radio Cambridge, England's first on the air radio broadcasting station?

What do you know about Kitty Black's marriage?

So many questions, but do you know the answers?

I do.

Mervyn Hagger BIG unanswered questions for Chris Edwards

21/5/2024 07:30:23 am

The reason why our trio invented the code E+O3X is because no human being can occupy more than one space in time on this Planet. We set out to prove where Ronan O'Rahilly was, and where Chris Moore was, and where Ian Cowper Ross was. We found the answers.

So Chris, WHERE DID THE MONEY COME FROM TO FUND RADIO CAROLINE?

Not until 1990 did anyone start repeating the story about a motoring drive by O'Rahilly, Moore and Ian Ross to see a 'Jimmy Shaw'.

That was NOT a Ronan story. That story was invented by Ian Cowper Ross in 1990.

But the problem with that 1990 story is that it came from a novel about a person called Peter Shaw and his father named Jim Shaw - which was written by Ian Ross. It was NOT about Ian Ross and his father named Charles.

Now, in 2021, after going on BBC-TV in 1990 and inferring that Peter Shaw was really Ian and that Ian's dad Charles was really Jim, Ian is out with a new story.

Go back to the 1967 Venmore-Rowland book and you will find no mention of any thing to do with a 'Jimmy Shaw' being the source of anything. In fact the claims made on Wikipedia even contradict Ian Ross by bringing in another 'Jimmy'.

Now Ian Cowper Ross has bypassed Ray Clark, after that useful fool swallowed and printed every lie Ian Ross told him, and Ian is now presenting himself as the main reason for Radio Caroline in 1964. Ronan O'Rahilly was a sort of dog's bod for Ian's great plan.

But Ian never boasted about how at age 17 and a motorbike crash and then a car crash that cost him a foot and landed him in court at Derby where he was fined, his dad told him to pay his own fine by getting a job. He got an office job with Jocelyn Stevens.

Ian's dad thought that his son was a reckless idiot, and in the prejudiced British thought that penniless Irish (which Ronan) was, were in the same sub-human boat at Blacks and not too far from removed from dogs.

So, given all of that, you still think that Ian's dad gave Ronan via his son a briefcase full of cash to fund Radio Caroline?

Not only that, Chris, but I have over 20 genealogy charts (and growing) that reveal the lives of people like Charles Orr Ross who worked for a Scottish firm of dry-cleaners - he was a director. I even bought old invoices and letterheads on eBay with his name listed as a director! Then that firm began franchising and it relocated to Chelsea.

I also know all about Ian's older step-brother, the one in showbiz who owned a restaurant and car wash on King's Road.

Then there is that fabled coffee shop where Ian supposedly met Ronan, only Ian did not seem to know that it had changed its name long before that fabled meeting and it was now a Kenco.

Chris, you have NO facts - NONE at all, and yet you want to poke holes in the investigation you were part of, the one that led to Alan Bednall whose daughter confirmed what you discovered about Charles Orr Stanley?

Your Titantic sank, Chris, and you are adrift in a sea of stuff floating by you that you are trying to cling on to. But your rescue boat named Ray Clark has a hole in its bottom and it will sink.

More than that, the 'new' and updated Ian Ross story of 2021 is going to cause you a real problem because he links up his story with Lord Eliot - his brother-in-law - who was involved with the Beatles' scam that began at 'Caroline House' which was NOT at Chesterfield Gardens.

But to know all about that, you would have to know that Kitty Black was married, and you don't, do you?

James (not McGregor)

21/5/2024 04:10:51 pm

The Alan Bednall account is far from convincing evidence. Saying that the equipment on the Fredericia was re-badged Pye kit is plainly incorrect, so I wouldn’t put much credence on that.

KEEP IT COMING - ITS CALLED FEEDBACK - WE KNOW YOU ARE READING THIS

21/5/2024 01:08:09 pm

Posted by Swerving Badger on May 21, 2024, 11:01 am, in reply to "Re: Jimmy Ross"
Hagger is imploding. Now he's saying that Ian Cowper Ross is behind Ray Clark's book in order to promote Liberty Ross's roller skating brand. He's also set up another website where he is dissecting the words of Ian Ross from the 'Flipper's Roller Boogie Palace 1979-1981' book. I don't know who he thinks will read it for anything other than entertainment value. Not content with that, he's turning on Chris Edwards now because he doesn't like reasoned and objective comments which don't suit his narrative. It's like watching a car crash.

EVEN MORE FEEDBACK!

21/5/2024 01:08:48 pm

Posted by The Observer on May 21, 2024, 8:42 am, in reply to "Jimmy Ross"
It’s amusing to watch Hagger tying himself in knots about who is lying and how he is going to expose them.

The respected Chris Edwards has once again pointed out that the Pye story is unconfirmed and seems to be based on the flimsiest of evidence, so it would be ironic if Hagger himself is the perpetrator of another lie.

OR IS IT GARRY STEVENS USING ONE OF HIS MILLION OTHER NAMES?

21/5/2024 01:10:29 pm

We love this instant feedback, and so does Mike. He knows for a fact that he has readers, even if a bunch of them are the same person.

Mike (Admin)

21/5/2024 03:33:44 pm

Been tracking IP's and locations for some time now. Some use VPN's when they come here but a number of things suggest when it's the same person using multiple names. Currently two people are having real hissy fits over Mervyn, but they just get deleted (until they can manage to calm down and write something of value).

All good fun and games, maybe a bit of sun and outdoors life is in order if summer ever comes.

WHAT'S THE NEW WEB SITE CALLED?

21/5/2024 01:14:21 pm

Well, what would you call a web site about a subject that has already been described by anoraks.

No, its title is not a human being.

Hint, hint.

But if you find it, remember it is a work in progress and there is still a lot more to upload before any announcement is made.

Got it?

When you do, tell Garry Stevens and then we can repost it here.

Don't need a hint

21/5/2024 04:13:49 pm

Website found, read and commented on, but Hagger's minder chooses not to publish them.

Mervyn Hagger

21/5/2024 10:20:49 pm

Okay, I'll take the bait.

NOW NAME THE URL

Let's see IF you found it.

I'm out

21/5/2024 05:35:20 pm

Well, readership and comment here will decrease henceforth by one (or more). I'm in the process of buying allaboutcaroline.com, allaboutcaroline.co.uk and allaboutcaroline.uk, one of which will become an alternative place to discuss Hagger's lies, unfounded accusations and 'investigative' conclusions.

Mike (Admin)

21/5/2024 07:47:46 pm

Actually readership has grown month on month for seven months now, so you might just be a little premature (or immature - whatever!). So go on then buy up all those sites and just watch everyone ignore you bar a couple of angry anoraks. How dare anyone challenge the given and historical narrative. Have you ever read 1984 by Eric Blair? You would be the perfect resident in that world.

Dear I'm Out

21/5/2024 10:25:55 pm

You really are "out" because it would be impossible for you to buy them. Why is it that you nutcases never, ever discuss what is making you so angry - apart from calling your god a fake and a fraud. How about discussing the merits of the facts? Please, don't be childish and say that there are no facts. Besides which, if there are no facts, what is getting you so worked up?

Rod Watts wants you to stop reading this even though he is reading Mike's Board!

21/5/2024 10:29:52 pm

Posted by Rod Watts on May 21, 2024, 8:50 pm, in reply to "Re: Jimmy Ross"
Everything was a Clandestine operation (conducted with secrecy) right from the start in the 60's, It HAD to be

If the true facts, of WHO was actually running things, had been openly known, at the time, the UK Government would have soon put a stop to it..... This makes it difficult, for Any researcher to get true facts now

Because real facts were obfuscated (make obscure, unclear) a long time ago, and memories fade with age etc

Yes, its nice to know some offshore radio history, but it's so hard to get to the truth, that far back

Remember, best way to deal with an Internet Troll, is to ignore them, they seek confrontation

It takes two to tango, and the Troll is looking for a reaction from the other party, that they have just wound up

So, if you don't fuel the fire of a Troll, by responding, they hate to be ignored, just Read their rantings and smile

Better than reading the Beano...When in a hole, stop digging.

KEEP POSTING ROD, YOUR COMMENTS ARE APPRECIATED!

Julian Orange

22/5/2024 07:05:06 pm

Researching and worse still publishing the truth will end you in a hole lot of pickle sauce

Stop it, just stop it.

21/5/2024 10:32:13 pm

We anoraks are very upset with you Mike.

This sort of stuff is not for the public to read because it may drive away financial supporters who could help dry dock the Ross Revenge.

You are being very cruel indeed.

SUE HIM! - PLEEEEEEEEEEEESE

22/5/2024 07:47:12 am

Posted by Swerving Badger on May 21, 2024, 9:36 pm, in reply to "Re: Jimmy Ross"

One school of thought is that he shouldn't be able to get away with his obnoxious accusations unchallenged and indeed there have been occasions when legal action would have been taken if he had a pot to p××× in.

However, you are of course correct and ignoring him winds up the narcissistic troll more than anything, so that seems to be the best way forward.

From the School of Thought

22/5/2024 07:56:29 am

The School is now accepting applicants for coursework in critical thinking that is essential in determining facts instead of fables.

If you have an open mind that examines all of the data which can be supported by sourced documentation that will be acceptable in a court room, then you are invited to apply for a scholarship.

In the first instance please state your legal first and last names as they appear on any government issued documents, together with a documented date of birth and documents supporting your present location, and post them here addressed to:

Administrator Mike.
c/o this Board

You will be duly notified if you qualify.

EVERYONE IS WELCOME TO APPLY

In Response to the Swerving Badger

22/5/2024 08:02:33 am

Swerving Badger, we tried your suggestion years ago but it does not work because Haggardly keeps posting the truth and this reveals that we are liars.

Well no liar is going to sit still and be shown up for what they are, they are going to lie again by attacking Haggardly.

So what's to do?

Admit the truth that Haggardly is reporting?

Hardly.

We have to keep up the attacks on Haggardly.

The Cult Of Caroline

22/5/2024 10:45:03 am

This is an Official Statement from The Cult Of Caroline:

We the Anoraks who have sworn allegiance to Ronan O'Rahilly, to Radio Caroline, and to all the wonderful Motor Vessels that have carried broadcasts using the call sign Radio Caroline make the following demands to be action-ed forthwith.

1. A cessation of investigating the origins of Radio Caroline.
2. Any attempt to wake us up from our rose tinted past.
3. The presentation of factually documented details that are at odds with our disciple like belief that Radio Caroline was a freedom fighting group of rebels against the authorities for the good of young music lovers of the swinging sixties.
4. Basically anything that upsets our dogmatic belief that Ronan was a lovable rogue.
5. The right for all anoraks to ignore the modern world, do nothing for the sake of our children and there children and remain zombie like in the belief that we were part of something wonderful and nothing else matters.

These are our initial demands, more will be made when we can remember what they are.

Remember we may be very few these day's but we can and will remain vigilant against anyone who threatens our view of the past.

Anyway we must go now as it's time for our daily 648AM signal analysis and in depth report on modulation, and for the second time today I think I may have had a lump in that last fart.

James McGregor 12 MT North Staffs Marmite (UK)) Motorway World Service Ltd SA Panama

22/5/2024 06:51:44 pm

"Anyway we must go now as it's time for our daily 648AM signal analysis and in depth report on modulation."

I Like Marmite 648. It is savoury, comfortable and comforting domestic Caroline Goddess food. If Nigellas Lawson had been a a young woman in the 1960's she would have been a Queen Pin up Girl for Radio Caroline playing around Charles Stanley's feet in the Kitchen while Ronon looks on smiling at Rishi Sunak doing his humble I am seriously sorry for all the crap I caused by slicking my hair back a bit more and wearing dark rimmed glasses to hide my tears when you kick my arse out in two months

We are where were are now. Checking for lumps and stool tests of our 648 carpentry pooh poo sticks

Damien Omen Child

22/5/2024 07:00:35 pm

Am I not the spit of my mother?

Chris Edwards and Paula Anne Vennells - by Mervyn Hagger

23/5/2024 08:00:45 am

There is an interesting comparison between what Chris Edwards has claimed on THIS Board and what Paula Vennells (Post Office Scandal) yesterday.

Both are claiming IGNORANCE of the facts.

In Chris Edwards case he is claiming that OUR joint investigation did not find any evidence.

THAT IS A LIE.

So the question then is, should his LIE be ignored?

This is what he posted and misspelt my name (unless Chris now claims that he did not write it?)

"Chris Edwards19/5/2024 08:06:16 pm

No one has interviewed Charles or John Stanley - not Ray Clark, not Mervyn Haggar or myself. There is no concrete proof that the Stanley's were involved with Radio Caroline, only supposition, based on a paragraph in Charles Stanley biography, and a statement in the Pye archives that remains unconfirmed."

CLERICAL DEPT NOTICE

23/5/2024 12:07:50 pm

If the domain link did not work the last time you tried it, that was because it is a work in progress, so try it again. But please dear anoraks, don't get excited over things like that which will be taken care of. Instead you should worry about your entire lie being exposed as a fraud to make money for a few people who lie, cheat and steal in the name of Radio Caroline.

Getting Haggardly

23/5/2024 12:09:21 pm

Got him!

Oh bother.

No, he got us again!

URGENT! FOR CHRIS EDWARDS FROM MERVYN HAGGER

24/5/2024 08:24:54 am

Chris, I want to know, did YOU write this post, or is it the work of an imposter?

"Chris Edwards19/5/2024 08:06:16 pm

No one has interviewed Charles or John Stanley - not Ray Clark, not Mervyn Haggar or myself. There is no concrete proof that the Stanley's were involved with Radio Caroline, only supposition, based on a paragraph in Charles Stanley biography, and a statement in the Pye archives that remains unconfirmed."

Mervyn Hagger

24/5/2024 08:39:44 am

The purpose of this post is to time-stamp a major realization that the PROOF OF RONAN O'RAHILLY'S FRAUD - backed by Ian Cowper Ross to further his own family interests, had been uncovered a few years ago, but like a jigsaw puzzle with many scenes, it was not put together as a single picture until just now.

That's right, just now.

The big picture is now complete and a LOT of the thanks for the hard work in uncovering the real story should go to Chris Edwards.

I teamed-up with Chris, but he did the legwork while I was the investigator.

Until just this moment I did not realize that we already had the absolute proof to show that Ronan O'Rahilly LIED and that Ian Cowper Ross is still lying!

Malcolm Smith is in deep-trouble with reality if he keeps proclaiming that Ronan O'Rahilly founded Radio Caroline, and anoraks are going to find themselves shaking their heads wondering how they could have been so stupid to believe in the Ronan O'Rahilly myth.

That's why I want to know whether Chris Edwards wrote the post denying that he had found the Pye 'smoking gun'.

Atlantisgb!

24/5/2024 09:26:49 pm

At last,
Well-done merve!

James McGregor

24/5/2024 11:43:26 pm

"Malcolm Smith is in deep-trouble with reality if he keeps proclaiming that Ronan O'Rahilly founded Radio Caroline, and anoraks are going to find themselves shaking their heads wondering how they could have been so stupid to believe in the Ronan O'Rahilly myth."

No they are not, it is accepted by all but the silly that he was the instigator, who persevered with the idea on his own through thick and thin

The only one shaking his head and wondering is you and you alone

A Second Person

25/5/2024 10:08:11 am

I think he should be allowed to present his case and then I will decide for myself, no place for blind faith in my life James. Maybe you will be shocked, maybe you will sit in your mummies basement and stay in denial.

Mervyn Hagger

25/5/2024 03:19:03 pm

You really should stop reading Beano and look behind the curtain and observe the stacked boxes of evidence that have now been digitalized and put on line by academic researchers. If I am the only one shaking my head, this nation is in deep shit. (And no, I don't been shite.)

James McGregor

25/5/2024 04:39:49 pm

"he was the instigator,"

AN instigator then

A prime mover, a fulcrum, a facilitator, a leverage pointer

Acceptance Board

26/5/2024 08:57:04 pm

James McGregor please pick-up your uniform at the door where you will also receive your own 'I love Ronan' badge Grade 'A'.
Well done for withstanding the barrage of common sense that you have been confronted with.
Your skill at shutting out troubling information is appreciated by anoraks.

Mervyn Hagger renews DEMAND

25/5/2024 08:14:31 am

C'mon Chris (Edwards), if that was you telling Mike the Admin on this Board that you did not find the 'smoking gun' that led to the ABSOLUTELY SOLID PROOF that Charles Orr Stanley of Pye was the creator of Radio Caroline.

YOUR discovery of the ORIGINAL text that should have been on page 276 of 'Radio Man', then led to discovery of the name of the company that it referred to.

It was not a fictitious company, and when all anoraks come to know the name of that company and what it enabled Pye to do (in secret - top secrecy as Alan Bednall originally told his interviewer), then anoraks will divide into those who worship Ronan O'Rahilly as god, no matte what reality says, and those who will be 'born again' and laugh to scorn what they once believed to be true.

So c'mon Chris Edwards tell us: Did you write that post denying that you found the proof that Charles Orr Stanley created Radio Caroline?

If that was NOT you, please tell us so that you will not be unfairly branded as a LIAR who cannot admit his error. The choice is yours:

Clear your name by denouncing that post or admit your own membership in the cult of Caroline.

It won't really matter because I know that Chris Edwards was the person who eventually uncovered the truth and nothing will ever change that fact.

Chris Edwards

28/5/2024 11:12:28 am

FINAL DEMAND
I’m still around, but just been enjoying the recent sunshine, rather than getting obsessive about what may or may not have happened sixty odd years ago.
As I mentioned before, all I found in the Pye archives was a statement from Alan Bednall saying that he’d produced metal logo’s and paperwork for a bogus company, to hide that Pye/Stanleys that would supply Radio Caroline with broadcasting equipment. Bednall’s statement was clearly the source of the paragraph in the Radio Man book.
We know that there was never any re-badged Pye equipment on Caroline, so all of this just leads to more unanswered questions, and is hardly “absolute solid proof”.
Someone else has mentioned it’s “put up or shut up” time, so perhaps Mervyn should focus on publishing his book, or books, and we can then all decide for ourselves what version of reality to believe in.

Chris Edwards - is that REALLY you = Mervyn Hagger

28/5/2024 05:20:23 pm

The reason I ask is because what you have now written is NOT true at all. This is the essential part of what he said and I published it back in 2021 ....

"Therefore, binding me to complete secrecy, your Father came to me one day and asked me to create from scratch an entire new corporate entity for a company manufacturing radio equipment. We made up letterheads, invoices, he opened bank accounts, we made up die-cast metal logos to affix to all the pieces of radio equipment, and even all the packing cases were made up specially in this livery – all to avoid any possibility of Pye being seen to be supplying this unlicensed Radio operator who Pye were determined to support, and were determined to see should succeed."
There is no mention of the words "bogus" or "re-badging". I not only found the company in question, but I know what they supplied and what was on those die-cast metal logos.

Alan Bednall told the TRUTH, it is Paul Rusling, Ray Clark and Malcolm Smith who are lying. But the worst of the worst is Ray Clark.

I will be putting all of it into context, but Chris, if it really is you, stop making stuff up, admit you were conned and that you need to make a BIG correction to stuff appearing in OEM about Ronan O'Rahilly and especially Ian Cowper Ross.

Chris, this is NOT speculation and I did not publish speculation in 2021, and what you found was NOT speculation.

You are denying reality!

Adendum to Chris Edwards comment by Mervyn Hagger

28/5/2024 05:29:21 pm

Chris, YOU are CORRECT. The source was Alan Bednall, but you fell into a trap of your own making when YOU wrote these words: "We know that there was never any re-badged Pye equipment on Caroline.... "

Alan Bednall NEVER said that there were!

Think about what was on Radio Caroline.

You will be closer to the truth and what Alan Bednall actually said, but he did NOT say what YOU imply that he said.

Your big question then is HOW did that equipment with THAT name get on board the mv Fredericia?

I know the answer and believe it or not, the answer was NEVER hidden, its just that people looked for something that was never there!

No, I won't explain myself, you will have to wait until I publish the comprehensive work. Right now I am deciphering the latest load of rubbish published by Ian Cowper Ross which apparently you know nothing about. I am making all of that available free of charge. The other work, the comprehensive work will become available commercially.

Orring on the side of caution

27/5/2024 06:31:22 am

I have read both 'page 276' and the 'original' text that Mr Hagger published elsewhere. These both indicate that a clandestine Pye company supplied equipment. Their is no indication who paid for it or that, in effect, Charles Orr Stanley paid for anything else.

Is the conclusion that COS started Radio Caroline based purely on the supply of equipment, or is there other evidence that either has not been made public yet or I have not seen? I presume there must be, otherwise the aforementioned conclusion seems to be quite a leap.

Tip Of The Iceberg

27/5/2024 11:44:35 am

That's all you are seeing. Whats beneath the water will blow most Anoraks minds! Patience, all will be revealed. Anyone very good at Jigsaws? There are plenty of pieces in play if you know where to look, just find the websites ha ha!!!

Mr Orring of canoe fame

27/5/2024 12:27:37 pm

Okay, so you read what Haggardly wrote elsewhere? What did you learn?

Recap: You should have learned that p.276 referred to Part One of the Caroline Story which ended on October 15, 1964. (Part 2 was after Pye when the gangsters took over.)

No money was sloshed out on offices and staff at first, the money was spent on a ship, and on transmitters, antenna and basic studio equipment. Even the ship was not modified.

So we are primarily referring to transmitters and studio equipment along with the legal know-how when it comes to COS and Pye.

Now the ship has been explained many times. It was bought by Wijsmuller with a back-up plan which was a trade-off for the work at Greenore. If Plan A had not worked out then O'Rahilly Sr would have his ship to replace mv Friendship as payment. The Dundalk people were reimbursed separately.

The info about the ship has been shared before, its the bit about the transmitters which has not been shared, but when you know the story, you will laugh because that story has been told in Pye history and its related firm in plain sight. It has never been hidden. The problem is that anoraks can't see the wood for the trees.

Where's Chris Edwards?

Hello - oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

27/5/2024 08:45:10 am

Well, now that it's put-up or shut-up time triggered by Haggardly to all anoraks - including and especially Chris Edwards, silence falls over the anorak world like a wet blanket.

Recap:

On the 'Free Radio' (lol) Board one poster is now bored with Laser which has any numbers following its name, while on the 'Pirate Board' there was talk of a meeting at a pizza place. Then, back last Thursday, AgB was going on about a mystery 'Special Broadcast'. But since last Thursday, nothing.

Maybe the entire Board membership of Garry using 16 other names, all got sick on pizza? Haggardly says it is awfully quiet in Anorakland.

Are they all (5+indivduals?) asleep after watching rust-removing paint dry on the Ross Revenge rust bucket?

Are you still alive and kicking Chris?

James has enrolled in anorak school and he is well on his way to earning his first Merit Badge. Does that not impress you? Well done James.

Essex Boy Celebrates on the Jimmy/Garry thread

27/5/2024 04:01:42 pm

Haggardly has been totally deleted from Amazon. I wonder what happens when Ray Clark and Co are PROVED to be fakes and frauds and lots of Haggardlys start writing their own reviews of Ray Clark's novels. Will Amazon ban Ray Clark for lying to everyone?

No, the Gruffalo sells quite well so maybe Ray can claim that its real first name is Jimmy and cash in on the kids.

Paul Rusling, cough, cough, cough

27/5/2024 07:10:32 pm

This guy is not just a thief, but he is a total hypocrite. He claimed that he had no time for research, so he stole from Haggardly in order to prop-up the lies told by Ronan O'Rahilly. Now, here comes this nincompoop who has no time for real issues to tell everyone on the absurd Garry Board, all about the political issues concerning the future of British broadcasting and censorship ...

Posted by Paul Rusling on May 27, 2024, 6:19 pm, in reply to "Broadcasting Bill becomes Law"

The Bill got shaved and hacked to get it through the House of Lords, and gives OFCOM even more discretion over radio's future; they seem to have no appetite for expanding use of analogue and have even refused rural stations FM licences. That fails those who live 'out in the sticks' and have very poor DAB reception. There are still many places where SS-DAB is poor and the many muxes are a bit too small to be commercially viable.

(I hear that OFCOM are now planning to bring ONLINE RADIO into their remote - that might take them a lot longer to control)

SwervingRollaballEssexTwat

27/5/2024 08:22:44 pm

I have been told to disagree with you. Paul Rustling might have stolen your material and plagiarized your writings, but he is jolly good landlord and knows how to pull a pint of Humberside Grease Beer and serve up a microwaved pie that is par-excellent. One day the fishbowl haircut will return and he will rightly reclaim the honour that he was behind that as well. Everyone with half a brain cell knows that Mr Rusling invented free radio, he was even Ronan O'Really's voice coach from 1973 to 1972, I bet you did not know that BBC verifies fact.

Sensible Badged James

28/5/2024 10:37:50 pm

I think Mervyn has a point about the "badges" after he he teased and tasered me over the Please me sir LA cover Ronan Art school cover

I think what the infamous paragraph is getting at might be more like "the money comes from us - the shipping crates say something and someone else

Obviously the physical actual - say CE TX's, could not be rebadged (although of course this does happen all the time in consumer goods - my Sanyo VCR was a Phillips etc

Maybe It's just a clunky way of a CEO describing something he really has no knowledge or interest in???

Just business memoirs talk?

Maybe the plan was to have physical badges but I can't see how that would have worked out too well as the instruction manuals and parts would have to technicians clearly been for something else and the whole point of the 1964 pamphlet by an author PR company I can't remember, waffling on about the ship, chef and the anchor chain was to impress how BBC installed pro gear, no interference problems here, masterchef we are

To have physical badges on CE TXs and Gates Mixers would have made the whole thing look micky mouse

However to suspend proven doubt - maybe that WAS a plan was was nixed because of the above reasons?

I don't know!

Mervyn to James

29/5/2024 02:00:03 pm

Forget the word 'badges' = read the original.
Stop reading something into the text
Read what the text actually says
But....
YOU HAVE TO FORGET RONAN O'RAHILLY AND IAN COWPER ROSS.
They are incompatible with the facts
Square peg = round hole, etc
No one had to reprint manuals, etc.
You are over-thinking something self-evident which other documents all support
I can't be more plain without telling you what I now know and I am not going to do that at this moment in time.
THINK, JAMES ABOUT WHAT IT SAYS AND NOT WHAT YOU THINK IT SAYS.

James McGregor's Mommy

30/5/2024 12:10:29 am

My son knows nothing

Mervyn Hagger = read what is says = not what you think it says

29/5/2024 01:34:24 pm

"Therefore, binding me to complete secrecy, your Father came to me one day and asked me to create from scratch an entire new corporate entity for a company manufacturing radio equipment. We made up letterheads, invoices, he opened bank accounts, we made up die-cast metal logos to affix to all the pieces of radio equipment, and even all the packing cases were made up specially in this livery – all to avoid any possibility of Pye being seen to be supplying this unlicensed Radio operator who Pye were determined to support, and were determined to see should succeed."

READ WHAT IT SAYS = NOT WHAT CHRIS EDWARDS IS NOW SAYING THAT IT SAYS. THERE IS NOTHING FICTITIOUS AND THERE ARE NO "BADGES".

I now know the name of the Pye company that supplied everything, where is was located and even its history. When others know the obvious - which is what it is once you know what to look for, you will immediately understand what Alan Bednall said.

It is not a religious or mystical tract, it says what it says and if you take what it says at face value and don't substitute words or meaning, then you will say "HUH! - how did everyone miss this? Oh, I remember now, Chris Edwards and Mervyn Hagger were NEVER supposed to find the original document, we were all supposed to be scratching our heads wondering why the book says what it says."

WAKE UP - OPEN YOUR EYES - DON'T INTERPRET THE WORDS

READ WHAT IT ACTUALLY SAYS

In due course I will spell out in minute details everything about the company, why it was set up, how everything was concealed and why it was concealed.

FOR CHRIS EDWARDS FROM MERVYN HAGGER

30/5/2024 09:46:45 am

This is the key part of what you found, as dictated by Alan Bednall ....

"Therefore, binding me to complete secrecy, your Father came to me one day and asked me to create from scratch an entire new corporate entity for a company manufacturing radio equipment. We made up letterheads, invoices, he opened bank accounts, we made up die-cast metal logos to affix to all the pieces of radio equipment, and even all the packing cases were made up specially in this livery – all to avoid any possibility of Pye being seen to be supplying this unlicensed Radio operator who Pye were determined to support, and were determined to see should succeed."

Now please PAY ATTENTION to what Alan Bednall actually said, and not what YOU seem to think that he said ...

1. "create from scratch an entire new corporate entity."
2. "we made up die-cast metal logos to affix to all the pieces of radio equipment."
3. "even all the packing cases were made up specially in this livery."

1. He does NOT say that the company was new, he says that he was asked to create an entire new corporate entity. I FOUND THAT COMPANY. It was a US subsidiary with a British subsidiary with a slightly different name to the US entity and it had direct access to the equipment in question.
2. He does not say WHERE the logos were affixed and he does NOT say that other logos were removed. Since the equipment cannot be examined in 2024, the time dated words of Alan Bednall cannot be disputed.
3. This part involving the logo on the packing cases was part of the fool-proof plan to deceive the Post Office inspectors who had control of all mass communications in the UK.

The BRITISH company was REAL and I have already amassed a LOT of information about it.

The fact of the matter is that the story about Ronan O'Rahilly is one big bag of LIES expanded and kept going by Ian Cowper Ross in 1990 for his own reasons, and then revived by him as recently as 2021 - which happens to be the very same year that I published YOUR findings in print by a reputable publisher!

Chris, you should listen to this record by the Great Society .... https://youtu.be/XsS9NJ36tnQ

Yes, you can have adoration from anoraks like Nazis had Hitler Youth, because this issue is way more than a subject about pop music (which owes everything to Joe Meek and Jack Good, not Ronan O'Rahilly.)

But finding someone willing to admit they were WRONG is very difficult because it is something that few people are willing to do. The majority are sheep who will always be led to slaughter by their own masters.

It ain't easy fighting the majority.

It takes guts, honesty and unwillingness to ever surrender to a lie.

Mervyn for Chris Edwards about Die Cast Logos

30/5/2024 10:04:33 am

Chris by switching die-cast logos to 'badges' you have formed a false picture of what it was that Alan Bednall said.

Die casting covers many things form Matchbox toys to big bold badges and even name plates you won't necessarily find up front (hint) ....
https://www.diytrade.com/china/pd/20856938/Custom_Die_Casting_Metal_Logo_Plate_for_Handbags.html

Prime Cod Monkfish DI McGregor (real entitled name)

30/5/2024 01:06:02 pm

As an addendum to the above. Smuggling has always been a part of pirate and offshore radio. The ridiculous Valcom 1988 tower rod was smuggled into and across Europe pretending to be a navigation aid for racing yachts (PM book Mick Dundee)

Fishing boats go out with 6 - return with 10 - burning 5 tons of fuel on the way

I think this Pye company "badge" rustication is just an excuse to put more coherer iron rust on the publication date of anything that is coherent and be easy to be understood by anyone who is interested. Which Mervyn himself now admits is next to no one apart from Robert De Niro, still paddling up the Amazon of De Nile. The Spice Girls say they they will vote Tory or leave the country - so that's good enough for my Reform vote

Chris Edwards

30/5/2024 09:43:23 pm

While Alan Bednall’s statement could be open to interpretation, it is the sole piece of evidence that possibly links the Stanleys/Pye with Radio Caroline. It is a single document, and there is no supporting or corroborating evidence for this link, or even that what is stated actually took place.
Anything else is only a theory – or guesswork as some might put it. It is not fact, and certainly not “absolute solid evidence” that would be required if there really was a forensic investigation.
As far as I’m concerned the Stanley/Caroline link remains unconfirmed.

Mervyn Hagger to Chris Edwards

31/5/2024 10:25:42 pm

Chris, just for the sake of argument, if you accept the alternative stories by Ronan O'Rahilly and Ian Cowper Ross they immediately fall apart as sheer lies when they are examined. You have NO evidence at all. None.

On the other hand there is a MOUNTAIN of evidence to support the Bednall version and I have just bought one of the original logos that he talked about.

I mean if YOU had not hung your hat on sheer drivel from O'Rahilly and Ross, YOU would ask yourself why you have hung on to something so silly so ridiculous as to be beyond absurd. You have been played for a sucker by a con man named Ian Cowper Ross.

I suggest you ask yourself the question who started Radio Caroline and why - a fairy?

The O'Rahilly stupidity has been totally eclipsed Ian Cowper Ross and if you know where to look you will find what I have found.

Badge Engineering

31/5/2024 10:08:12 am

Of course, this is all about what someone said happened, which as we all know, may not be what actually happened. In this instance Mr Hagger claims to have evidence to back it up, but until such time as that evidence is produced it doesn't mean a great deal. We shall have to wait for the book to verify Hagger's claims, but until such time as that appears, just saying 'I know something you don't know' doesn't really cut it as an argument.

Argument Cutter

1/6/2024 08:23:36 pm

Well it might not cut it for an unknown entity such as your self, but who are you to say anything of any importance, you are probably just an auto-bot troll. You have no respect for someone who is researching and digging for detail, are you frightened? You do not cut it by any angle so go away and rethink your petty position Mr Doggy Bottom????

Mervyn Hagger for FRED BRAMLEY

31/5/2024 11:55:56 am

One of the earliest IDIOTS to attack me on the Garry Stevens Board is named Fred Bramley, and he has repeatedly made the accusation that everything I say that I know comes from Ian Ross' novel - which Bramley loves to point out is set in Liverpool and has nothing to do with Ian Ross.

Well, Ian Ross tried to get a boutique going in The Cavern (called 'The Grotto' in the novel), and he failed. He went into the boutique business more than once and failed.

Where Ian Ross' book really goes off the rails is in selling Ray Clark on the idea that Ian's father is named 'Jimmy', and Wikipedia has taken this a step further and claimed that 'Jimmy' is in the frozen foods business.

Fred Bramley, guess what? I have now come across old news stories about Ian Ross at 'The Cavern' where he tried to launch his own brand of Cavern dresses!

Fred you really should start ripping into Ray Clark and Paul Rusling because they are two of the biggest frauds around supporting Malcolm Smith and his major con job.

Just saying the Cavern is incomplete

2/6/2024 05:34:57 pm

Was it the Cavern in Liverpool (which almost everyone knows), the Manchester Cavern nightspot, the Cavern boutique (just off Carnaby Street) or the Cavern in the town (near Leicester Square). This easily could again become ridiculous when it is not specific. A dry cleaning company from the East side of Scotland which (MH claims C.E. Ross was connected with) was bought by an English company during a period of rapid expansion, time to name that company. Concerning Radio Caroline-it was only an on air name. When referring to people connected to that name, it is better to name (and refer to) the operating company they were connected to - eg: Planet Productions, Project Atlanta etc, to avoid confusion. Scottg.

Scottg = explain this .....

3/6/2024 10:09:42 pm

How could Planet Productions be the operating company if it did not come into existence until AFTER the ship had been bought and AFTER the transmitters had been bought?

Where did the money come from?

Who was operating the plan if there was no company to operate a plan?

Where is a copy of that plan in writing?

YOU need to start thinking critically and stop dancing around with airheads who seem to accept the idea that 3 young men were the operators after a bank simply handed them a case full of cash with no written plan or contract.

THINK Scotg.

THINK!

You are allowing RAY CLARK TO LIE ON US TV and claim that the BBC banned the Beatles ... the BBC made the Beatles long before Radio Caroline ever uttered a peep.

REMEMBER: the BBC made the BEATLES not Radio Caroline!

Mervyn Hagger

1/6/2024 08:33:10 am

According to Ronan O'Rahilly, on camera, in his own words, he arrived in London in 1961. Again, in his own words, he was a political anarchist.

In London in 1961, landladies posted cards in the way prostitutes advertised their fare in their windows and they told would-be renters: "NO IRISH, BLACKS OR DOGS"

In 1967, Venmore Rowland describes O'Rahilly as arriving in London = BROKE. But suddenly, without explanation, this broke Irishman age 21 who went to work in London's gangland of prositutes and Rachman, suddenly hobnobs with Jocelyn Stevens who hobnobs with Princess Margaret, snooty sister of the Queen.

HUH?

No one asks how, and Ronan O'Rahilly simply says if they think you have money in England, you will get money.

HUH?

Try telling that to the millions of people who thronged London in 1961 that money was easy-peasy.

Jump ahead now to 1990, and Ian Cowper Ross' novel.

No admission about being a stupid kid of O'Rahilly's age who crashed a motorbike and then a car, lost a foot and ends up in court with a fine. Dad gets this lazy kid a starter job with Jocelyn Stevens in his advertising department.

In the novel, 3 gadflies with nothing to their names suddenly get given a casefull of cash after calling a dry-cleaning franchise director by the wrong name in a most disrespectful manner.

HUH?

Fred Bramley on the Garry Stevens' Board says "Its a novel".

Okay, its a novel. Same year as the novel on BBC-TV, Ian Cowper Ross begins to say that the novel is true and that the 3 people are O'Rahilly, Moore and Ross.

Wikipedia then says that the dry-cleaning director was actually the head of Ross Frozen Foods, and not Ian Cowper Ross' dad - unless Ian Cowper Ross had 2 dads and is 2 people in 1 body.

Now along comes Ray Clark with his book in 3 editions that begin with Ian Cowper Ross as its source. He confirms the story in the novel is true.

Okay, so along comes Alan Bednall with a documented story from 1959 to 1964 about the real story behind the funding of Radio Caroline - which checks out with file upon file of documentation and Chris Edwards says that he does not believe it.

Okay, so now Chris, you are back to a silly story about Jimmy Ross and his frozen foods which has NO credibility whatsoever.

What gives, Chris?

Is your fear that OEM will immediately go out of business if you now say that Ronan O'Rahilly was indeed a LIAR, just like Mervyn Hagger says that he was, and that Ray Clark is nothing more than a promoter of LIES?

You can't have it both ways.

Tell the truth Chris.

For thinking people

1/6/2024 08:46:47 pm

Badge Engineering31/5/2024 10:08:12 am

WHY do you have to wait for Haggardly, he doesn't know what he is talking about, everyone knows that.

Ray Clark relies on Ian Ross' novel - the one put down by Fred Bramley. Let's say that Fred is right, its a novel.

So, tell us Chris Edwards, if the IEE book and Alan Bednall ARE wrong, how did a broke, 21 year old Irishman who was despised by the English like Blacks and dogs, suddenly get to know Jocelyn Stevens who was pals with snobbish Princess Margaret, sister of the Queen of England?

Ronan O'Rahilly was a political ANARCHIST - HE SAID SO ON CAMERA.

But Ian Ross said that someone at a bank just handed them a case full of cash and Wikipedia says that it was Carl Jimmy Ross of Ross Foods.

Who do you think has a credible explanation about where the money came from?

Forget Haggardly, he is an idiot, Fred Bramley says so, but then he also calls Ian Ross' book a novel, not to be trusted.

WHO IS TELLING THE TRUTH AFTER ALL THESE YEARS?

AgB

1/6/2024 09:19:14 pm

So much to read,
I give up!
Retirement so much sweeter ,
AgB.

Chris Edwards

1/6/2024 09:24:48 pm

Staying with Alan Bednall, whilst Mervyn may claim to have "file upon file of documentation", no one has yet seen any of this to make any judgement.
I'll wait until Mervyn Haggar publishes his book or books, before deciding what might be the truth.

Mervyn Hagger - with an 'e' Chris

2/6/2024 08:56:12 pm

I published a monograph back in 2021 comparing texts. I also published a lot of material in a blog, on line. Then I sent out email newsletters and guess what? I didn't hear a peep from you once Rusling and Company got in on the act. You then joined the Garry Stevens crowd.

So, since you seem to be scared stiff of what Bednall means to the future of OEM, let's move on to the accepted version that I have laid out in challenges to you on this Board.

Are you telling me that (and everyone else) that OEM believes in Jimmy's case full of cash story? That is the most stupid and the most childish explanation so far offered and Bramley is correct - it came out of Ian Cowper Ross' novel and until I paid a Private Eye to find out who Ian's "daddy" was, YOU didn't even know his name and Wikipedia still claims that his name is Carl Jimmy Ross of Ross Foods.

Are you that scared of OEM going down the toilet that you can't admit the truth?

Haggardly: Why Chris Edwards cannot be allowed to get away with this ....

2/6/2024 08:11:21 am

"Chris Edwards30/5/2024 09:43:23 pm
While Alan Bednall’s statement could be open to interpretation, it is the sole piece of evidence that possibly links the Stanleys/Pye with Radio Caroline. It is a single document, and there is no supporting or corroborating evidence for this link, or even that what is stated actually took place."

SO, I, CHRIS EDWARDS BELIEVE WHAT WIKIPEDIA SAYS: IAN ROSS' DAD WAS CARL JIMMY ROSS OF ROSS FROZEN FOODS WHO TOLD A BANK TO GIVE RONAN O'RAHILLY AND HIS 2 PALS A CASE FULL OF CASH TO START RADIO CAROLINE.

Huh?

Huh?

Huh?

Huh?

Dare I ask this question? by Mervyn Hagger

2/6/2024 11:55:20 am

Gary Stevens made me his Admin and backed me while he yelled at what he called 'The Church of Caroline'. Then one day, without explanation, he banned me and fell in love with the Church of Caroline.

But the Church of Caroline had a theological schism and split off with the Reformed Church of Caroline led by Dave Martin calling Gary Stevens the Devil.

Now along comes Chris Edwards who straddles the fence between Stevens and Martin, after finding the truth from Alan Bednall that Ronan O'Rahilly was a liar, and now he says that Ronan O'Rahilly told the truth. At least, that is the implication if he now shuns Bednall.

Maybe Chris Edwards is now anorak agnostic.

Or, maybe Stevens got PAID OFF (not necessarily in cash), and Chris Edwards has been BOUGHT OFF under threat of seeing OEM go out of business?

So is that it Chris?

You named your price, like Garry Stevens and sold out?

If not, tell us why not.

Either you no longer believe in the fairy called Ronan (nothing sexual, only immoral), or you are pretending to be an anorak agnostic.

Well, that won't wash because you saw much of the supporting proof that I used to send out to a big mailing list, and you were on it.

Fess-up Chris. Be a man and tell the truth.

The name dropping brainwaves of Ronan's shortest serving P*A*

2/6/2024 04:32:07 pm

!Later Richard Laren made his OLD GOLD juke box pressings available in shops, which muddied the water still further. The brain-wave of Ronan's longest serving PA!"

Mervyn: WHY RAY CLARK IS EITHER A FOOL OR JUST A LIAR

3/6/2024 11:04:36 am

This is what Ray Clark said on US ABC-TV while sitting on the Ross Revenge (shown promoting his book on 14, 2024):

"Back in the Sixties the kids in America had a wealth of radio stations to listen to. Here in the U.K. we had 1, the BBC, and they hadn't discovered the Beatles. We needed Radio Caroline from a ship 3 miles off the coast to hear that pop music that we craved for."

On Saturday, November 2, 1963, the Daily Mirror newspaper carried the headline: 'Beatlemania! It's happening everywhere...."
... even in sedate Cheltenham.' This is believed to be the first use of the word in print; by the end of the year [1963] it would be widely used." (The Beatles Bible, Online.)

On March 7, 1962, the BBC Light Programme aired recordings of the Beatles on a show called March 7, 1962 on 'Teenager's Turn - Here We Go' . That was a full two years before Radio Caroline emitted its first sound. The following year on June 4, 1963, at 5pm, the Beatles began their own BBC radio show called 'Pop Go the Beatles'.

Go figure. Is Ray Clark merely Malcolm Smith's con man or is Ray Clark so hard up for cash that he will lie on air in order to sell his book with a FAKE story?

Do YOU share this same lack of moral compass as Ray Clark?

Yes, Chris, I am asking YOU!

Beatle Bum Badge

5/6/2024 08:18:22 pm

Posted by Chris Edwards on June 5, 2024, 2:01 pm, in reply to "Re: Jukebox 45's ?"
Apart from a large centre hole, Was there any difference in the catalogue or matrix numbers between the regular and jukebox pressings?

THE BBC MADE THE BEATLES - NOT RADIO CAROLINE

3/6/2024 10:13:31 pm

Ray Clark is a liar.

He says the BBC shunned the Beatles but the BBC made the Beatles

Well, Agb - how about you telling the truth?

James McGregor

4/6/2024 12:36:56 am

This recent video shows that Georgie Fame and forts and pirates were all connected with CIA control of radio and minds like Kiss -crazy days indeed

https://youtu.be/gfNIwSyovwk

MERVYN HAGGER - AGAIN SAYS "ANORAKS ADMIT YOU ARE WRONG!"

4/6/2024 11:03:01 am

Anoraks, its time to dump the stupidity of Wikipedia, Ray Clark, Paul Rusling, Malcolm Smith and the list goes on and on.

The childish story about Caroline Kennedy and that daft suitcase full of cash given to Ronan O'Rahilly needs to be erased once and for all.

Stop replaying old tapes and wondering what the output of transmitters was back years ago, and focus on some real questions such as how did John Junkin get to make those Caroline tapes and where did he make them?

James McGregor

4/6/2024 10:51:30 pm

John Junkin was a studio 61 equity card seeking actor. He was successful as such. Tapes were decorated at Regent Street for Project Atlanta. He was last seen on screen in EastEnders and is now deceased

James, James

5/6/2024 10:36:33 am

Junkin was heard on Caroline, not Atlanta and the Regent Street address was a mail drop. Junkin was a successful actor with a long career, so the answer is, James, you don't know the answer to the questions. Maybe he worked for Carl Jimmy Ross hand-picking the peas to be frozen to sell so that the cash could be stuffed into Ronan's bank briefcase? Possible? I think all anoraks will agree that this is probably what happened.

Mervyn Hagger - Latest Discoveries

5/6/2024 09:38:11 am

If you are wondering why I keep posting here, I will tell you.

It's because Mike gets feedback and I like that - good or bad - because I also take not of what both the Stevens and Matin Boards are posting. Most of the time they post drivel such as what did Tony Blackburn do when Caroline ran out of cornflakes?

But sometimes, like the Mike Barraclough post about the US ABC-TV clip (I think it was Mike B), in which Ray Clark on board the Ross Revenge stated that the BBC never played the Beatles so Ronan O'Rahilly had to start Radio Caroline (which according to anoraks was named after Caroline Kennedy and paid for with a suitcase full of cash that (according to Wikipedia), Carl Jimmy Ross of Ross Foods gave him.

But a vital key came out of this. It seems that the Beatles who began courtesy of BBC - long before Radio Caroline, is the dateline key to discovering a vital part in this story and it has to do with Suzy Ornstein.

So bit by bit, mostly be genealogy timelines which I keep building (human beings can only be in one place at a time), the AUTHENTIC STORY of Radio Caroline is beginning to emerge. Another key piece is John Junkin on Caroline and where he recorded his shows. It is where SImon Dee went in West Hampstead and that links to Ross Radio and Radio Yorkshire and CNBC and GBOK and Allan Crawford and the THV Satellite with a mortgage from a stockbroker who joined Project Atlanta Limited.

So thanks anoaks, keep feeding me with your leads and I will follow them up.

If you want the latest news though, it won't be on the Stevens-Martin Boards, it will be right here on Mike's Board. I'll bet Garry Stevens won't let you post that on his Board .... or will he?

Mike (Admin)

5/6/2024 07:58:59 pm

All posts are welcome here as long as they not about slagging off Mervyn (or Chris Edwards and other intelligent people who contribute). Maybe Mervyn and Chris are disagreeing here, that's fine, constructive discussion is good however blunt it may be.

I allow James M comments through most of the time mainly because Dave Martin' lonely board and one of the most stupid and thick admin censors on Garry Stevens borad had him banned because he is devoid of any tolerance for people who are not exactly like him.

It's far from perfect here and plenty of ranting Mervyn haters don't see the light of day in the comments, despite their repeated attempts, as far as I am concerned that is not censorship, it's managing idiots.

Idiot Management inc

6/6/2024 10:56:49 pm

Garry has forgiven Lesley implying the LV 18 might have self combusted
and is now allowing him/her/himself to complain there is no internet radio freedom apart for Garry's wonderful streams

Des Les

6/6/2024 03:47:54 pm

John Junkin recorded his programmes in Dean Street, as did Simon Dee. I remember reading that one of the Atlanta jocks was surprised to see the “opposition” recording there.

Why did the early pre recorded programmes from Chris Moore have no station ID? For the first few days live identifications were live from the ship.

Why was that?

Mervyn Hagger

6/6/2024 08:48:44 am

I am writing these words online in the little box for replies, but in self-editing sometimes not just letters and words, but parts of sentences seem to get left out which makes for convoluted reading. Sorry about that.

There is so much that is missing from the years 1959-1964 that it is a pity some of the intelligent posters on the 2 anorak boards don't spend their time doing sensible research instead of posting nonsense. Right now I am trying to build a timeline for John Fenton, because he is a key player in the years leading up to Caroline - separate from the Pye manufacturing storyline.

Another storyline I am building is the Simon Dee years from 1967 onwards because this is when the lunacy of Ronan O'Rahilly begins to land people in prison. The Wiseman book, unlike the Rusling-Clark rubbish has some good material which needs to be expanded upon.

Meantime anoraks are still going on about nonsense relating to transmitter power in the past and Malcolm Smith's spluttering today.

Each to their own

6/6/2024 02:37:51 pm

You have your interests, other people have theirs. That's OK isn't it?

You like to research.

Mervyn Hagger

7/6/2024 10:45:26 am

No, it's not OK if the offshoot subject matter relates to the main subject matter, because it is like adding more coats of paint to cover up the true identity of the subject.

John Fenton

6/6/2024 04:57:48 pm

Found this on the Internet. Hope it helps.

John Bramley Fenton, age 26 in 1964, became the Chairman of Stramsact Limited, a British company which obtained the original contract from David Jacobs, the lawyer (not the eponymous dj) who represented Brian Epstein. At that time Epstein's NEMS company was out of its depth in dealing with merchandise licensing, and in those days few understood how much money could be made from business that was ancillary to the main operation, which in this instance was singing, recording and performing.

Fenton was working in the record industry, and he formed a partnership with Simon Miller Mundy, age 22, who was already a "former" accountancy clerk and on the verge of his own financial inheritance. These two joined-up with Mark Warman age 21, and his CV read "in films". Their company called Stramsact Ltd brought more British people into their circle, and together they formed a U.S. version of Stramsact which was named Seltaeb ("Beatles spelt backwards"), and it was incorporated in the USA. Seltaeb Inc., was the most profitable arm of their venture because it held all licensing authority for Beatles' merchandise outside of the UK.

Heading up Seltaeb, Inc., was Nicky Byrne as President of the company. He was age 31 and claimed to be a former English racing driver. His wife was Kiki Byrne, a fashion designer. The weight of British aristocracy came from Lord Peregrine Eliot, age 22 who had been managing his family's estate in Cornwall, and Lord Eliot was joined by Malcolm Evans who had been working in the television industry. These four took up residence in New York City.

This group had collectively known each other for years. Simon Miller Mundy had attended Eton at the same time as Peregrine Eliot. John Fenton and Malcolm Evans had also known each other for a considerable period of time, and Malcolm Evans at one time had dated Mark Warman's sister. He originally met Nicky Byrne when Byrne was attending Eton, and Malcolm Evans was attending Westminster. It was during this time that Byrne and Evans first met on the football field.

Mervyn Hagger

7/6/2024 10:50:42 am

Yes, that is the same material that was posted on the allaboutcaroline.com site. But what it does not explain is how all of that links directly to Ian Cowper Ross and to the cover-up story by Ronan O'Rahilly and the LIES told by Ray Clark on US-ABC-NEWS about Malcolm Smith's rust bucket and toy Radio Caroline .... or why Chris Edwards won't step forward and admit that he and OEM have been promoting lies to boster the myth of Ronan O'Rahilly.

Oh dear more Mike Plumbly spluttering and nonsence as if it makes Greaseball Rocco feel important with his non stop music show before the Stevens tender leaves him behind

6/6/2024 11:07:03 pm

Posted by Rollerball Rocco on June 6, 2024, 7:27 pm, in reply to "Re: Caroline Support meeting Southampton"
I'm reminded of the time young Paul had the Punch Tavern before the man with the plummy voice rang him and changed his life forever. Paul's wife, Anne used to moan about anoraks coming in and sitting there all night talking radio with Paul and buying just a half pint. Same sorta thing here methinks.

Steven Hanks Spiels Parallax View Propaganda. But seriously God Bless and and Thank you all

6/6/2024 11:53:09 pm

BBC

US President Joe Biden has drawn parallels between Russia's invasion of Ukraine and World War Two, in a speech commemorating the 80th anniversary of the D-Day landings in Normandy, France.

Throughout the speech, Mr Biden frequently drew connections between the fight against fascism in World War Two and the ongoing war in Ukraine.

Before a field dotted with the small, white tombstones of the dead US servicemembers, the president warned "the autocrats of the world are watching closely to see what happens in Ukraine".

He vowed the US would "not walk away" from the conflict, claiming "if we do Ukraine will be subjugated, and it will not end there. Ukraine's neighbours will be threatened, all of Europe will be threatened."

And he launched a direct attack on President Putin, referring to the long-term Russian leader as a "tyrant".

The president also sought to rally Western leaders, repeatedly highlighting the increasing threat from anti-democratic forces across the world and of freedom coming increasingly under threat.

He hailed the efforts of the "noble band of brothers" (THANK YOU SAYS STEVEN WHO IS LOOKING FOR A COUPLE OF FILMS AND A MINI SERIES OUT OF THE SUNFLOWER STRUGGLES?) who participated in the D-Day landings, saying "the men who fought here were heroes".

"They knew - beyond any doubt - there are things that are worth fighting and dying for. Freedom is worth it. Democracy is worth it. America is worth it. The world is worth it"

In an earlier interview with ABC News, Mr Biden defended his decision to allow Ukraine to use US weapons to strike directly on Russia. He emphasised the strikes would be limited to areas around the border and would not extend to strikes on the capital, Moscow.

D-Day: 'You're the saviour of the people' veteran tells Zelensky

Earlier in the day, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau took part in a separate ceremony commemorating the 381 Canadians who died on D-Day as they stormed Juno Beach.

Echoing Mr Biden's message, the Canadian leader said: "We must all continue to stand for democracy day in day out, we owe it for future generation."

+_+_+_+

Our monarchy was more modest and respectful than bank freezing, euthanasia promoting tyrants and globalist agenda dictators, allowing air strikes "around the border"?

CLIMATE CHANGE ? THERMO NUCLEUR WARM WEATHER?

+_+_+_

The Prince of Wales, Prince William, was also present at the Canadian commemorative ceremony at Juno Beach in Normandy. He thanked Canadian veterans for their "extraordinary acts of bravery and sacrifice".

At a British ceremony, King Charles III laid a wreath at the British Normandy Memorial in Ver-sur-Mer with a note attached touching on the sacrifices made on D-Day.

In a speech, he said that he hoped the sacrifice made by the D-Day veterans will "never be made again".

"Our gratitude is unfailing, and our admiration eternal," he ended, to a round of applause.

Makes you proud to be British and not in some tinpot tyrant country like the USA, Canada, Ukraine, Russia, Clacton?

Mervyn Hagger

7/6/2024 10:55:12 am

Since the British nation called United Kingdom is a FRAUD begun back on the fraudulent foundations of a monarchy created in 1660 and supported by a censorship bureau called the Post Office - you must be one insane dupe of stupidity.

When will it register in the grey matter???

7/6/2024 06:45:38 pm

Planet Productions only leased a fully functioning radio transmitting station located on a boat. There were other offshore companies that paid for the boat and the transmitting equipment. Ronan O'Rahilly's connection is a plan that was modified for the investors to be anonymous, and the link to Greenore. He was only the figurehead, assembled the broadcasting staff and generated publicity. He had no role in the financial running of Planet Productions-his 'department' only spent money,, and was staffed by many of his friends, before Barry Ainley wealded the axe. Scottg

Mervyn Hagger to Scottg

9/6/2024 10:29:17 pm

Go on, post that on the Garry Stevens' Board!

Where is the anorak outrage directed at Ray Clark's MASSIVE LIE?

7/6/2024 09:46:37 pm

The video clip of Ray Clark sitting on board the Ross Revenge and telling the US audience that the BBC would NOT play the Beatles, so Radio Caroline had to open the airwaves defies all explanation.

The BBC made the Beatles - long before Radio Caroline came along.

C'mon you mealy-mouthed anoraks. You love to hurl abuse, so now your little man has told the world this massive lie, while plugging his book, and so far, not one anorak has turned on Ray Clark.

The evidence this time is there for everyone to hear and SEE Ray Clark utter the lie and then hold up his book for sale.

But the anoraks are still posting stupid stuff.

The STUPIDITY of ANORAKS by Mervyn Hagger

8/6/2024 10:04:27 am

Well, to put it mildly, anoraks will be pissing down their own legs involuntarily when they discover the authentic truth about Radio Caroline for the first time.

Why?

Well Ray Clark will be 'Pisser-in-Chief' because he told the USA on TV that the BBC would not play the Beatles so Ronan O'Rahilly had to start Radio Caroline, when it was the BBC that made the Beatles by giving them airplay and even their own radio show before the start of Radio Caroline.

But the key is the ROYAL PERFORMANCE show about 16 days before JFK had his head blown apart in 1963 - BEFORE the Fredericia was even purchased = because Radio Caroline was drowning in ARISTOCRACY linked to not just the Beatles, but the Moody Blues and more!

Radio Caroline was no more the work of the sneered at Irish immigrant and bum Ronan O'Rahilly than the world is flat!

The TRUE STORY unravels in the chronology of genealogy and Ian Cowper Ross plonked himself into 2 different lines of Peerage which wrapped around the Beatles.

Ray Clark is the latest big IDIOT to mislead everyone and Malcolm Smith is just latest ex-grease monkey to be laughing up his own sleeves at the sheer stupidity of anoraks and the press who have fallen for his version of the Radio Caroline story.

I am still unwrapping the genealogy of the people who brought the hoy polloi the so-called 'Swinging Sixties', but it is incredible how far the con job of deception has gone.

Meanwhile the anoraks are still going on about transmitter output!

Mervyn Hagger = It was NEVER about the music!

9/6/2024 10:10:25 am

The reason why Ray Clark and his ridiculous ilk piss me off is because he and his friends are actually DUPES of the British Establishment by helping to PREVENT the story of Radio Caroline from being told.

1. The MUSIC issue: By March 1964 the Beatles and many other groups were already big international stars - they had no need of Radio Caroline. Georgie Fame included!

2. PYE had a long history of following the same cartel pattern as General Electric, and LTV who owned Continental Electronics and became the partner of PYE who had pushed Churchill's Tories to create ITA and now they wanted BBC2 and independent radio which they never succeeded in getting after WWII. Their main interest in all this was manufacturing.

3. TAX EVASION - Now we come to the backbone of Radio Nord, Radio Caroline and Radio London. All three were linked to TAX evasion which made them enemies of the State. The man behind Radio London is now dead, but his methodology lives on to the anger of the US tax authorities. Radio Nord had the protection of joint CIA (sonar) activities. Radio Caroline had the misfortune of being a total shambles dominated by US Mafia (Jack Spector Show, etc) and the Kray Twins. Then came the ridiculous attempts by Ronan O'Rahilly (1967 onwards) to tie up with George Drummond and the Essex theft of American Express Travellers Cheques.

This is such an involved and hitherto untold story where a handful of people such as Ian Ross working with Ray Clark, have done their best to promote this silly story which is STILL on the Ronan O'Rahilly Wikipedia page:

"Radio Caroline was largely funded by financier John Sheffield (great uncle of Samantha Cameron) and Carl Ross (creator of the Ross fishery frozen food business and grandfather of David Ross, the co-founder of Carphone Warehouse) and publisher Jocelyn Stevens.[citation needed]"

But instead of getting help to research, the IDIOT anoraks are behaving like agents of the Crown in discussing stupid and childish stuff about the past and doing their best to prevent the real story from being told.

However, it does mean that at some point in time when as much of the details as possible have been revealed, that the authors who told the truth will be Eric Gilder, Genie Baskir and Mervyn Hagger.

Busy, busy, busy

9/6/2024 10:15:18 pm

My hobby is fixing old radios. I'm working on one which has Radio Caroline on the dial. According to Hagger this pastime should only be permitted if I concern myself with the history of Radio Caroline and seek out the true history thereof. Presumably this also applies to every other station on the dial. This could take a while.

Health and welfare

9/6/2024 10:32:11 pm

Whatever the revelations concerning Radio Caroline should they ever make it to a coherent published volume, I can say with some certainly that they will not render me incontinent.

Truth tellers

10/6/2024 07:17:22 am

Not a dig, but a genuine question for Mr Hagger

We never see any comments or contributions from Eric Gilder. In fact, the only time his name surfaces is in your old academic papers. All of the content in the various blogs is obviously written by Hagger, so what part, if any, does Eric Gilder currently play in your endeavours? Why does he never publicly support Hagger? A straight answer would be welcomed.

Mike (Admin)

10/6/2024 07:51:19 pm

I can tell you that Eric Gilder is definitely involved in this process, I will leave it to Mervyn Hagger to expand on this if he wishes.

I know there have been many anoraks trying to undermine Mervyn and suggest that he is on his own and that there is no 'trio'. Idiots like 'Nick' have even suggested on Gary's very slow and declining board that I am Mr Hagger.

In some ways I feel sorry for them, some annoying over the top Texan influenced renegade has dared to call their rose tinted view of the past out, suggesting they have been misled!

How awful eh? However, I still think the real story should be told, if it differs from the Wikipedia and amateur authors versions.

I have always hated the term 'Anorak' it fits much better with train spotters in my opinion, still it's a better call than the Dutch offshore DJ's & crew of the seventies who regarded you all as 'wankers'. For me just knowing what really went on in my formative years would be a good thing, simple as that, whats to be frightened about?

Truth tellers

11/6/2024 07:54:49 am

Of course, the truth is welcomed and clearly the suggestion that you and Hagger are one and the same is erroneous. There is nothing to be frightened about and the suggestions by the self styled J R Ewing Texas wannnabee that there are those who will loose control of their bladders and bowels following his revelations are frankly ludicrous.

However, I do question the active involvement of Eric Gilder in the 'Trio's' endeavours. Publicly, he remains silent, offers no support to Hagger, and there is nothing to suggest that he has any input. Why does no one apart from yourself support Hagger? Where are his helpers?

Horse's Mouth

11/6/2024 08:01:26 am

How about contacting Gilder direct for his comment? Sounds like a plan. Ask him what his involvement is and what he thinks of Hagger's aggressive approach. His contact details are readily available. I might do that.

Mike (Admin)

11/6/2024 07:19:30 pm

I think it strange that some think I am some sort of supporter of Mervyn, or that it has to fall into camps of for or against him. To me that is school playground stuff. I am interested in the research going on and personally don't have an axe to grind with Mervyn. I also know there are plenty of other people talking to him regarding this research including Eric Gilder. I know this through emails we exchange and being copied in on circulars. T

The reason I am included is because I keep my mouth shut and don't try and rip Mervyn off like Rusling did (and he really did). If you think Mervyn is a nasty horrible man, that's your problem, and in some ways you don't belong here.

I know that Ronan O'Rahilly remains a hero to many anoraks, perhaps you should consider the people behind Radio London/Scotland/270 etc as an alternative. There are many very good reasons why those who were really behind the birth of Caroline did not want to be known. There are also reasons why a few still don't want the truth to come out and not surprisingly it has a lot to do with money, even after sixty years.

IS THIS REALLY THE WORK OF SCOTTG? - asks Mervyn Hagger

10/6/2024 08:05:21 am

"When will it register in the grey matter???7/6/2024 06:45:38 pm
Planet Productions only leased a fully functioning radio transmitting station located on a boat. There were other offshore companies that paid for the boat and the transmitting equipment. Ronan O'Rahilly's connection is a plan that was modified for the investors to be anonymous, and the link to Greenore. He was only the figurehead, assembled the broadcasting staff and generated publicity. He had no role in the financial running of Planet Productions-his 'department' only spent money,, and was staffed by many of his friends, before Barry Ainley wealded the axe. Scottg"

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Paull Rusling openly admitted to me personally on one of his theft visits that he thinks research is boring, so he hammered together his self-published books that tell a lie by incorporating some of our stolen material into his RAY CLARK narrative worshipping about that fraudster Ronan O'Rahily.

But the difference between Rusling and Clark is that while Clark worships Ronan O'Rahilly, he does so by making Ian Ross into the 'brains' behind Ronan O'Rahilly and using Chris Moore as his stepping stone.

What Scottg appears to be doing, if it is Scottg, is working with that numbskull Garry Stevens who is a legend in his (and only his) own mind, to now TAKE from our research and become RUSLING VERSION 2.

Now that I have Chris Edwards on record saying that he did not find the missing link in the 'Radio Man' story (so that he can keep his own Ronan O'Rahilly bible called OEM afloat), Chris Edwards will find it difficult, VERY DIFFICULT to now say that Haggardly was right all along.

So up pops Scottg as Rusling Version 2, but he also wants to keep O'Rahilly in the picture, and that is essential to Malcolm Smith and his rust bucket - toy radio station.

I outlined the real story - but I did not reveal the expensive research behind it which HAS been published elsewhere for copyright security - bit by bit. The fact is - there is THEM AND US - AND THE 'TRIO' I REPRESENT IS 'US'.

So anoraks, all of you, watch out. A trainload of TRUTH with evidence - is on its way to compendium-sized publication and it will create a big problem for anyone clinging to the idea that Ronan O'Rahilly created Radio Caroline.

Mervyn Hagger CHALLENGE to Chris Edwards

10/6/2024 06:42:00 pm

I want to know what level of PROOF you need to admit that Charles Orr Stanley with his son John Stanley, both representing the PYE Group were responsible for the creation of Radio Caroline by supplying it with equipment, and that Ronan O'Rahilly was a paid stooge.Worse still is Ray Clark. What will it take for you to wash your hands of him in disgust?

What precisely do you need to know Chris, given that up until now you have no proof to support the O'Rahilly mythology?

Mervyn to Mike

11/6/2024 08:56:39 pm

Anyone who wants to investigate me or my friends and associates is welcome to do so. If you do you should try our formula of E+O3X - or event plus orientation times three: time-person-place = human beings can only be in one place at a time on this Planet.

What annoys me are the actions of people like Chris Edwards who knows - or should know - the real story. It is not a secret but it does take money, time and effort to find it. But when Chris Edwards refuses to acknowledge the true story that he found, that is a problem.

Mike Leonard just takes some stuff and incorporates it, and he does not respond to enquiries. But there is at least one major interest web site that does not try to promote a false storyline but makes everything available to everyone.

I won't name it here, but I am a big fan because its owner has supplied me with at least 2 major pieces of evidence which until I explained what they meant, that owner did not realise their significance. One of those items I have not begun to exploit, because if I did everyone would wonder how I got hold of it. But in due course I will - without causing the person who helped me and my associates, any problems.

I am puzzled by Scottg because he seems to be tottering on the fence line, if of course it is Scottg who is posting here.

Now I will add this about Johnnie Walker. I was furious with him for the nasty comments he made about my friend Don Pierson, but now Johnnie, it has been revealed, has IPF - a very rare lung condition.
While it is has similarities to other lung conditions, it is unique. In layman's terms it is the opposite of HIV and a weakened immune system. It is a mysterious (idiopathic) cause of cutting the lung sacs which results in immediate healing by creating scar tissue. Scar tissue cannot breathe.

My wife died from IPF and we tried everything possible to stop the cycle of cutting and scaring which causes lung function to go from 100% down to the point of no return. My wife was on oxygen assist and we joined a specialized group trial and I injected her 3 times a week with a substance made for horses and which cost (paid by insurance) thousands a month. It was tried because there were similarities to animal health issues and we were under the watchful eye of a medical lung specialist and a leading authority on IPF..

But sadly, nothing worked and when her natural lung capacity went below 20% - my wife of many years had a heart attack in front of my eyes in the hospital, and then she died.

So don't for a moment think that I do not sympathize with those who suffer for no reason and no fault of their own, because I do. Yes, I also listened to JW on CS at his 'Percy Sledge' spot, and yes, what he said about Don really annoyed me because it was untrue. But I will NOT be saying anything negative about Johnnie because I know what he is experiencing.

I just wish that some, like Chris Edwards who has also experienced his own unfortunate moments of grieving over a loved one, would tell the truth and expose those who lie for money.

Time is running out for all of us old timers and it is my intention, with help from my two partners (and long time friends) to blow the lid off Malcolm Smith's big fraud before I die, as I will and as he will and we all will.

If the truth is not revealed now before we all die, don't expect that the generations to come will find anything but lies - which really began to be sown in earnest after 1990 - by Ian Cowper Ross, Paul Rusling and Ray Clark for the financial benefit of Malcolm Smith.

Since I have posted a huge amount about myself on line concerning the murder of my daughter, it won't be a massive research project for anyone who wants to find out who I am, and to discover just about everything that there is to know about me.

Mike is correct. I do give him a 'heads-up' on what we (the 'Trio') are doing, and he is also correct in that I respect him because he respects me. I just wish that I could say the same for the rank-and-file 'anoraks'. (It was the best catch-all term I could think of Mike and seems to have been first coined for this purpose by a post-MOA disc jockey.)

James McGregor

13/6/2024 08:50:15 pm

Some years ago I enquired if Mervyn had a wife or other family left. This was unanswered then. I have now read from him about his wife who had the same as JW has now and I sympathise with their suffering and sorrow

On the badges subject - are there any anorak photos showing these and why after all these years did know one looking or working on them before notice this apparent revelation? I bet PAR knows he is of course an offshore radio expert. Starmer 1-18, Sunak 99-1, others hung 20-1. If I was an MP I would have given the £100 to my wife to go on a mission in the next constituency for cash. Is this really such a big deal for a £500 pay out? How many millions have been made in the Markets for MPs, congressmen over windfall finance of the climate change realm spending vaccination programme. Sunak made a good living from Modena when he was Wall street Shuffle. Considering he had such a mentally malnourished background of no SKY MTV TV, depriving him of the Simpsons and repeats of Hart to Hart it is truly amazing he has risen so far

Every time him and ever other politician opens their mouths these days it just beggars belief even more than wondering how much longer Joe Biden can stand up straight

An unanswered question for Mervyn Hagget

12/6/2024 09:53:58 pm

You seem to have swerved this one, so I'll repeat it for you:

"Truth tellers10/6/2024 07:17:22 am
Not a dig, but a genuine question for Mr Hagger

We never see any comments or contributions from Eric Gilder. In fact, the only time his name surfaces is in your old academic papers. All of the content in the various blogs is obviously written by Hagger, so what part, if any, does Eric Gilder currently play in your endeavours? Why does he never publicly support Hagger? A straight answer would be welcomed."

Care to comment?

Why you not give a name??

13/6/2024 12:09:23 pm

Why should anyone answer to you, you don't even have a name, is that because your frightened? I think your a troll who will never be satisfied because it's not the truth you are after, it's trying to get one over on people that get off of their backsides and do something.

The answer has been given here, Eric is involved but that will never satisfy a point scoring troll, so why don't you swerve off yourself? I surprised the admin let's this kind of nonsense through!!!!!

Why oh why??

13/6/2024 03:14:56 pm

" ......surprised the admin let's this kind of nonsense through!!!!!"

Probably because he seems to be a reasonable man and it's a reasonable question. It's not nonsense just because you say it is.

Meanwhile, in the real world

13/6/2024 07:10:29 am

ABANDONED? NO SIR!

Despite featuring on the TV series Abandoned Engineering, there is really no such thing on board the Ross Revenge.

Not working, yes. Awaiting repair, currently out of service…er, yes again. But abandoned? Most certainly not.

Way back, when the Ross Revenge was in exile far out in the North Sea and broadcasting on a shoe-string budget, the ethos was “make do and mend”.

That approach survives to this day. Alongside our appeal for funding, its resourceful volunteers continue to work minor miracles, keeping things going until the great day arrives when the Ross Revenge ups anchor and is towed into dry dock for major repairs.

When that happens there will be no cutting corners. Only the attention of experienced marine surveyors and engineers will get the 1,000 ton, 65-year-old Ross Revenge shipshape again.

In the meantime, dedicated volunteers keep up the hard work of maintenance on a day-to-day basis, alongside the ambitious project to ensure its future. Both are vital if the home of Radio Caroline, Britain’s first and most famous pirate station, is to be secured for future generations to visit and learn of its history as both a radio ship and its earlier function as a deep water trawler, the last of its kind.

The Ross Revenge is used for special broadcasts and welcomes visitors for guided tours. It often features in documentaries and is used as a location for film shoots. To do this, the ship needs power.

In the bowels of the ship is the generator room. The casual observer might assume this is abandoned machinery. They would be wrong. It is true that the mighty MAN generators,one of which provided power for Radio Caroline's broadcasts at sea require attention. Beside them is a smaller Lister and a modern Perkins, both operational.

Currently the preferred workhorse is another Perkins, attached to an alternator that provides the current for the ship. Recently this failed. Volunteer engineer John Day stripped it down and found metal shavings inside. It was beyond repair.

Howard Beer, the ship’s boatman, sourced a new alternator which was an as close as possible match to the original and ferried it to the ship, at anchor on the Blackwater Estuary, Essex. Howard undertook a considerable amount of modification work and, finally, the task was completed.

It is now at work, powered by the older Perkins engine that was, itself obtained second-hand and removed from a scrapped mobile crane.

Of course, there is other machinery in different parts of the vessel, most notably the huge ship’s engine that used to power the Ross Revenge through the Arctic waters of the North Sea in its days a Grimsby-based trawler, one of the largest of its kind. And then there are the transmitters that once pumped out Radio Caroline’s broadcasts.

Are these abandoned? No. Our resourceful team of volunteers will turn their attention to them in due course.

In the long term, everything depends on the success of the charity appeal and hoped-for support from external funding bodies such as the Lottery. Caroline’s loyal supports have been generous in their donations. If you wish to help, please visit our Charity site.

Des Les is WRONG

13/6/2024 07:59:49 am

"Des Les6/6/2024 03:47:54 pm
John Junkin recorded his programmes in Dean Street, as did Simon Dee. I remember reading that one of the Atlanta jocks was surprised to see the “opposition” recording there."

No, that's not what "one of the Atlanta jocks" said. In fact, no one can remember Simon Dee being there in that time period.

Simon Dee said (in print) that he went to a studio in WEST HAMPSTEAD, which is very specific location and Dean Street is NOT in West Hampstead.

Haggardly tracked down that West Hampstead studio and bought books about it, and who owned it and how it was used by Ross Radio to record 208 programs for Pye.

Explain that, Chris Edwards.

THE PROOF REQUESTED BY CHRIS EDWARDS

13/6/2024 08:29:29 am

"Chris Edwards1/6/2024 09:24:48 pm
Staying with Alan Bednall, whilst Mervyn may claim to have "file upon file of documentation", no one has yet seen any of this to make any judgement.
I'll wait until Mervyn Haggar publishes his book or books, before deciding what might be the truth."

Okay Chris, now that I have it on record (repeatedly) from the ARMY of anoraks supporting you and OEM, and that includes Paul Rusling, Ray Clark and Malcolm Smith, that Haggardly is a LONE IDIOT contradicting all of the wise old men who claim that Ronan O'Rahilly began Radio Caroline, I can (at last) tip my hand a little bit.

Well, a big bit.

Chris Edwards says there is NO PROOF that Pye (Charles Orr Stanley and his son John) created Radio Caroline, but the PROOF is right in your face, Chris Edwards (and your anorak followers).

Where?

Its that "badge" as you call it, on the front of the Caroline transmitters!

The connection to PYE is on the die cast pin showing the logo (like Alan Bednall claimed in 'Radio Man'). I recently bought one, and now that I have received physical possession of it, I can now explain what you and OEM and all of the anoraks do not know..

I did not want to state this until I actually received it.

That logo has two versions, and the British version was designed by Alan Bednall. That logo shows the name Pye PLUS another name which links to the "badges" on the Caroline transmitters.

The other logo (not designed by Bednall) links to a company based in Dallas, Texas that employed the father of Dr Eric Gilder. (That should also kill off the snipers asking about Dr Gilder and this project.)

Well Chris Edwards, will you now admit that Haggardly has been right all along in thanking you for finding the initial Alan Bednall evidence that allowed me to find and buy one of the die cast metal logos he mentioned?

So it just remains for me to THANK Chris Edwards for his initial and most important original find, without which I would never have discovered the 'missing link' in the form of a metal lapel pin that I could wear, but won't because it is too important to lose, so it remains in its clear plastic wrapper attached to a piece of cardboard.

Yes Chris, HAGGARDLY has the proof that YOU requested.

Now what?

Badges and Logos

13/6/2024 03:11:16 pm

A lapel pin? Surely that is not something which would be located on a piece of equipment?

Chris Edwards

13/6/2024 06:54:09 pm

A simple question - How does Meryyn know the name or details of the die cast logo, as Alan Bednall makes no mention of a name.

James McGregor again

14/6/2024 05:21:53 am

Hic! Is RCA involved? becuase Google says they have tie pins when I put in PYE and Caroline

Not proof

14/6/2024 09:22:40 am

A badge on the front of a transmitter is not proof that the Stanley's created Radio Caroline. A badge on a piece of equipment merely confirms the existence of that particular piece of equipment in a certain location at a certain time. Further evidence is required. This may or may not exist, but stating that you have such evidence means nothing until you produce it.

Mervyn Hagger to Mr Squirm "Not Proof"

14/6/2024 11:09:54 am

It is Chris Edwards who began misquoting Alan Bednall - complain to him (or are you "him"?)

Alan Bednall told about a logo and a die cast metal version of it. He said nothing about "badges" - that is a Chris Edwards' invention.

You have to read the exact words uttered by Alan Bednall as recorded on the interview sheet that was discovered by Chris Edwards that he is now running a million miles away from, while adding further distortions like the text in 'Radio Man'.

While the former 'Grease Monkey' who misspends donations on T-shirts instead of his rust bucket, Chris Edwards is desperately trying to save the total destruction of OEM after it is branded a purveyor of lies and distortions - all in the name of Radio Saint Ronan O'Rahilly.

But look at those Continental Transmitters with their die cast name plates on their front panels, where did they come from? Yes, they came from a company in Dallas, Texas. So who owned that company? Why LTV did, the same company that employed Dr Gilder's father. But LTV was a cartel, like General Electric, like PYE.

LTV OWNED CONTINENTAL ELECTRONICS!

So, look at Radio Nord aboard the ship that became Mi Amigo. It had LTV transmitters on board. How did they get on to that ship? It was via a New York company that was then prosecuted for making unauthorized shipments abroad, contrary to US Foreign Policy regarding overseas shipments. So LTV did not repeat that route, LTV found a new one to satisfy Pye which had BBC/ITA and UK military contracts, LTV also had UK military contracts. Therefore the idea of shipping CE transmitters in plain sight was not possible.

Now enters the original story told by Alan Bednall that was deliberately distorted in 'Radio Man'. George Saunders to this day is scared of telling all he knows - even though he knows nothing of this. But George is still scared of contravening the UK Official Secrets Act which he signed. He is probably protecting his pension. Good for George.

The fact is, the true story is now known and can be proved as true, regardless of a former Grease Monkey, and the owners of a radio digest called OEM, and regardless of the paid UK government hack known as Ray Clark.

Haggardly will be telling all he knows, very, very soon.

Don't say you weren't warned.

but he did not say WHERE it was affixed.

To Mervyn Hagger

14/6/2024 10:05:59 pm

Nothing you have said proves that "The real founder of Radio Caroline in 1964 is Charles Orr Stanley of PYE." Continental Electronics transmitters were a popular choice and it may well be that various inventive means were employed to get them on the vessels. This does not mean that COR or PYE paid for them. Even if he did, that no more means that he founded Radio Caroline than the suppliers of the mast did.

More badges and logos

14/6/2024 09:54:07 am

"a company based in Dallas, Texas that employed the father of Dr Eric Gilder."

Continental Electronics. The original transmitters were their products.

Mervyn to "More badges and logos"

14/6/2024 02:25:06 pm

"Continental Electronics. The original transmitters were their products."

Okay, that's true, and your point is?

As for your point about Dr Eric Gilder, yes, that is correct as well.

So far we are not in disagreement.

I am just wondering if you are wondering what the heck anoraks are going to do know that it is obvious that collectively they are in deep shite.

Maybe they are just wetting themselves right now, the need to change underwear due to smell will follow shortly. Hey, maybe Malcolm should switch from selling T-shirts to underpants. He might make a killing on the clean-up.

Chris, are you drafting an emergency edition of OEM? You should, you know.

Mervyn gets it wrong again

14/6/2024 09:33:09 pm

"While the former 'Grease Monkey' who misspends donations on T-shirts instead of his rust bucket".

Oh dear, you've read something someone wrote on a board and not fact checked it have you? Do your research.

Mervyn Hagger in reply to Chris Edwards

14/6/2024 07:59:43 am

There are 2 comments and 1 has no owner, but here is my response to both of them:

Q1. Badges and Logos13/6/2024 03:11:16 pm
A lapel pin? Surely that is not something which would be located on a piece of equipment?

R1. I did not say and that it was. Bednall did not say where the logo was attached. The logo was made into a die-cast lapel pin, but it was obviously not simply made for a lapel pin. There was a logo and I have now collected full page ads carrying this same logo that were published in the UK and USA. But in the USA version the name 'Pye' does NOT appear. It does appear in the UK version. Another clue. The USA manufacturer used his same shipping device for 'Radio Nord', but not the same operatives. (Hint, hint, hint.)

Q2. Chris Edwards13/6/2024 06:54:09 pm
A simple question - How does Meryyn know the name or details of the die cast logo, as Alan Bednall makes no mention of a name.
R2. Very easy question to answer Chris. Just as I gave you some big clues as to the Pye link, so Bednall gave us some big clues in the original document (not the 'Radio Man' text).

I followed those clues together with other known information that I discovered and the answer was obvious. Very, very obvious. Like stare you in the face obvious.

The first obvious part is that the logo has 'PYE' on it as well as another name. Its USA counterpart does NOT have the 'PYE' name on it, but it does have the other name, and newspaper reports explain not only that the 2 parts of this operation are a joint venture, but even the UK/USA percentage of that joint venture.

The fact is, Chris, I have indeed solved the puzzle and the answer is so obvious as to make anyone touting Ronan O'Rahilly as the 'father' of Radio Caroline - look like an absolute moron since that myth has NO evidence at all.

But Chris, I am now well on my way to show what O'Rahilly did when he first arrived in London in early 1961, to the moment he first met Crawford.

However, the Pye connection has been solved beyond any doubt whatsoever. It's just that I am not going to tell you the 'other name' at this time. But the big clue is in not only what Bednall actually said in the document you uncovered, but it is in the name on those transmitters on board both Radio Caroline ships.

Now that last REPEATED BIG CLUE should explain everything if you are awake and thinking. If you can't get it now Chris - it is because you don't want to get it because either OEM goes out of business, or it makes a big apology and course correction.

That choice is of course yours to make. Just remember that Lone Star Haggardly told you this with support of my two working partners Baskir and Gilder, and oh yes, Mike already knows the answer because he has seen a picture of the lapel pin with the logo on it - as well as a picture of the ads with the US version of the same logo on it!

Time is up, Chris.

It's time for you to either sink or swim in a revelation that YOU uncovered because Bednall's clues tell all.

Badges and logos again

14/6/2024 11:20:17 am

None of which proves that "The real founder of Radio Caroline in 1964 is Charles Orr Stanley of PYE."

O Nameless Fearful Anorak - just one word response....

14/6/2024 08:48:43 pm

WHY?

Mervyn Hagger regarding PROOF

15/6/2024 08:44:41 am

Let's get something very clear because this is the beginning of the END for all anoraks who believe in the Ronan O'Rahilly myth as told by Ray Clark and others.

1. The only issue I am discussing here at this moment is whether Chris Edwards discovered the 'smoking gun' to destroy Ray Clark and his true believers in the Ronan O'Rahilly myth.
2. Chris Edwards did the legwork as part of a partnership investigation with me into the story behind the single paragraph on page 276 of 'Radio Man'.
3. I have to threaten various officials with exposure if they did not release evidence they were sitting on that prevented Chris Edwards from finding it.
4. The document found by Chris Edwards not only explained the paragraph on page 276, but it revealed that the grandson of Charles Orr Stanley who commissioned the production of the IEE book, was told that the truth could not be told. The same thing happened to the movie 'The Boat That Rocked'. It was turned into fiction for the same reason. Ditto with Ian Cowper Ross and that BBC-TV documentary.
5. Years ago I published the twin texts, one fake from page 276 and one that Chris Edwards discovered and I even put it on line in 'allaboutcaroline.com' - but the anoraks ignored it in order to keep worshipping their god Ronan O'Rahilly.
6. So what I have revealed here is HOW Charles Orr Stanley SUPPLIED all of the equipment for Radio Caroline. I have the proof beyond any shadow of doubt.
7. But the proof I have referred to only relates to the Chris Edwards' discovery, because Chris Edwards now faces a huge decision: tell the truth or keep on promoting a lie. It is sink or swim time for his OEM.
8. The vast amount of proof relating to the actual timeline of events leading up to the beginning of Radio Caroline in about October 1963 (according to Jocelyn Stevens on camera!), answers the many other questions about the who, what, where and how of the hitherto untold overview of the Radio Caroline Story - which we intend to publish for the world to read.
9. Either some really childish anoraks and some really big dupes (like Ray Clark) will have to admit their error in believing in the Ronan O'Rahilly myth, or their belief will become what Garry Stevens called 'The Church of Caroline'. A cult that ignores reality.
10. For Chris Edwards this is now his moment to admit the truth or join that cult.

Chris Edwards

14/6/2024 10:17:44 pm

FOR THE RECORD!
On the 17 March 2017, I found a document in the Pye archives at Wroughton, on which the paragraph in the book Radio Man about the Stanleys and Radio Caroline is based.
The document is a transcript of an interview by Nicholas Stanley and Alan Bednall from 25th September 1997. No other documents or interview recordings were found in the Pye archives, and Nicholas Stanley didn’t have copies.
Alan Bednall had joined Pye in 1951 as industrial designer. In late 1950’s, he was encouraged by Charles Stanley to leave Pye, and set up as freelance designer. One of his projects was a concept model for a 3D television.
In the relevant part of the transcript, Bednall recalled that “The other exciting bit of work I did for Pye, was the top secret work on Radio Caroline. It was many years before anyone outside the Board room knew that Pye had supplied all of the radio broadcasting equipment for Radio Caroline ( as well as Manx Radio, Radio Lourenco Marques, and Radio Luxembourg). As you will remember Radio Caroline was an unlicenced “pirate” radio station who Pye had no business to be dealing with, or supplying. Therefore binding me to complete secrecy, your father came to me one day, and asked me to create from scratch, an entire new corporate identity for a company manufacturing radio equipment.
We made up letterheads, invoices, he opened bank accounts, we made up die cast metal logos to affix to all the pieces of radio equipment, and even all the packaging cases were made up specially in this livery – all to avoid the possibility of Pye being seen to be supplying this unlicenced radio operator, who Pye were determined to support, and were determined to see should succeed. Both your Grandfather and particularly your father were obsessed with the idea and possibilities of local commercial radio broadcasting, before most people had even heard of the concept”.

Mervyn Hagger in reply to Chris Edwarrds

15/6/2024 11:21:23 am

At last, you are repeating PART of what I published YEARS ago by comparing the text in 'Radio Man' with the original text by Alan Bednall.

But Chris, it is NOT "For the Record" as you now claim, due to the fact those these words by you:

"On the 17 March 2017, I found a document in the Pye archives at Wroughton, on which the paragraph in the book Radio Man about the Stanleys and Radio Caroline is based."

That statement is FALSE.

The text in 'Radio Man' was NOT based upon the Bednall text, it is as FALSE as the Ray Clark text about Radio Caroline, and you know it.

In my monograph published YEARS ago, I compared BOTH texts side-by-side and pointed out to readers the deception.

YOU HAVE NOT.

You are WRONG in making this statement in its unqualified form:

"No other documents or interview recordings were found in the Pye archives, and Nicholas Stanley didn’t have copies."

It is TRUE that YOU did not find "other documents or interview recordings" "in the Pye archives" and it is also POSSIBILY "true Nicholas Stanley didn’t have copies."

The reason being that Alan Bednall's daughter told me in writing that Stanley's son/grandson, had all of Bednalls' work, and he did not give it back to Bednall as promised, and he did not let Bednall see the text sent for publication.

I know that this young Stanley LIED to me on the phone and tried to totally mislead me. He did not want the original documents discovered, and I was the one who then arranged for you to inspect them - after he told me where they were!

Also it is TRUE that YOU did not find more Pye documents at Kew, but I found them elsewhere, and that is how I came to find the logo that Bednall described!

So don't let's admit part of the truth Chris, let's tell everyone the WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH:

RAY CLARK LIED.
RONAN O'RAHILLY LIED.
IAN COWPER ROSS LIED,
AND OF COURSE THE ANORAKS LIED IN UNISON.

This is High Noon for you, Chris.

It is time for you to admit the whole truth and divorce yourself from the LIARS.

Hapless anoraks throw more random names about at brick wall

14/6/2024 06:11:05 pm

KLIF Dallas, Westinghouse, General Electric, Sony, Gordon MacLean don, Hunter Biden, Lee Harvey Rabbit. Oswald Mosely, Zenith, Radio Shack, Tie Rack

Mervyn Hagger

14/6/2024 08:55:15 pm

Dear Anoraks, your game of lies and make-believe is over. The fact that both Caroline radio ships had CE transmitters made by an LTV company in working partnership with Pye reinforces everything that Bednall claimed. Anoraks, your rust bucket propaganda is dead in the water.

Mountains and Molehills

15/6/2024 11:18:09 am

So Caroline had transmitters made and supplied by Continental Electonics as did many stations, some via Pye surreptitiously.

Who paid for them? Who paid for the Nord, Luxembourg, Manx and all the other users of their equipment?

Chris Edward's and your discoveries have proven Pye's involvement as suppliers, nothing more.

The source of the transmitters has been known for decades, but maybe not the Pye involvement. What part of what you call 'rust bucket propaganda' is called into question here?

That's a start .... by Mervyn Hagger

15/6/2024 10:32:22 pm

Hopefully you are fully qualified Anorak Idiot with credentials. So, now you accept that Pye did as Alan Bednall stated. That's good.

What you do not seem to know is what happened between 1959 and October 1964, because if you did you would know the answer to your question. PS: Mike knows.

FOR THE RECORD by Mervyn Hagger - 4/7/2020

15/6/2024 11:32:14 am

The unnamed person in this text published on 4/7/2020 and still Online for all to read for themselves at http://www.yesternoir.org/yesternoir-blog/meet-alan-bednall is CHRIS EDWARDS!

Read for yourself what this time-date text says (and we have discovered a LOT more since then as Mike will attest):

"Meet Alan Bednall ...

4/7/2020

Today's blog actually picks up on my blog of 3/31/2020 - "Looking for 'key words' in boxes of words", and this paragraph:

"If you will recall (or refer to yesterday's blog), this mystery began when Nicholas Stanley (who had commissioned the book for a 'mere' £92,355), could not explain the source of the information in that one paragraph on page 276. He was also extremely hazy, because this event had taken place years before. He was also unsure how the information had been obtained, but he thought that the source was an 'engineer' named Hill, but he did know where this 'Mr Hill' could be located, or even if he was still alive."

"Now look back to yesterday and this entry:

"On Friday, March 17, 2017 at 1:21 PM, 'The Trio' received this follow-up message from their associate:

Not long been back from Wroughton, managed to get through the 3 "Frankland" boxes, and beginning to despair of finding anything, and then in almost last box looked in found the attached."

WELL CHRIS, NOW WHAT?

MORE LIES OR MORE TRUTH?

ANORAKS WANT TO KNOW (OR MAYBE NOT!)

Bored Watcher

15/6/2024 12:48:50 pm

Have you noticed that neither of the two anorak Boards are saying anything at all about what is going on here with the Chris Edwards showdown?

They always snipe at comments here. But not right now, even though you know that they are reading this Board.

Maybe we should discuss the cost of the buffet at the Southampton get-together, or the death of a French pop singer, or something to do with obsolete engineering?

OOPS, "Reg strikes back"

15/6/2024 10:34:58 pm

Yes, Reg is on about Haggardly and his sidekick concerning 'Jimmy' on the Garry Stevens' Board. Reg must be an avid Mike reader!

James McGregor

16/6/2024 01:23:10 am

"Chris, are you drafting an emergency edition of OEM? You should, you know."

Chris is way ahead of you Merve. In an effort to same his non profit enthusiast magazine, publication is now ramped back up to the golden years of bi monthly

Hurrah, if I was a bank robber or a Tory Gambler I would happily buy this fine publication every week

Only today, more top secret HO files about What records Simon Barret hid in his trousers. Old paper clipings of your mentor Don Pierson and your favourite transmitter company on page 16. Reminders of a young 27 year old Governer Bill Clinton, pondering his next land gab deal, Prince of Wales first speech in Lords. Ronan imagining he might anchor the Mi Amigo in New York Bay for the sympathy vote of his compatriots and admitting shock horror that radio pirates like to make a lot of money. Unfortunately old German newspapers wrapping up the story of the rust bucket Galaxy refuse to show signs of ending in any issue soon. No offense but personally I would like to see more space or a website in the absorbing Freedom of information documents and memos. There must be crates of them, but it's going to take a lifetime to serialise them in OEM. Have the 1970 Mebo jamming docs been allowed out yet or is that still hush hush.

James from Mervyn

16/6/2024 06:49:07 pm

James, not only did we work together on solving the 'Radio Man' mystery, but Chris sent us all of his Kew files in an information sharing operation.Therefore we are sad to see the division that has developed.

However, we understand that one of our other confidants who has supplied us with amazing documentation relating to the episode that followed on from Charles Orr Stanley after October 1964, will soon be meeting Chris for a pint (he says.)

So here's to hoping that the rift will end and leave the kids Garry Stevens, Dave Martin, Paul Rusling, Ray Clark and others, to drown in their own stupidity, because the authentic story about Radio Caroline is going to appear in print. What has taken us so long is finding more and more of the kind of hard evidence that the idiot anoraks refuse to acknowledge. It does exist and it will be put into chronological order for everyone to read.

Here they come ....

16/6/2024 07:54:14 am

First Reg and now ....

"Posted by Swerving Badger on June 15, 2024, 6:01 pm, in reply to "Re: Jimmy Ross"

Like his two associates that we never hear anything from. BTW, did you know that Charles Orr Stanley founded Radio Caroline? 🤣🤣🤣"

That's a good one because it puts Chris Edwards firmly in the cross-hairs of TRUTH or LIE?

This clear-cut definition between the Ray Clark - Malcolm Smith Version (with Paul Rusling thrown-in with them for good measure, sets the stage.

Mike Leonard and his Offshore Radio Museum which, like Rusling takes stuff from Haggardly and Co and tries to hammer his fake pegs into preserving his O'Rahilly holes, is setting the stage for one big showdown with Chris Edwards.

Chris Edwards is still maintaining that he really didn't find anything at Wroughton, at least, nothing of note to swing away from worshipping the nonsense of O'Rahilly revived by Ian Cowper Ross, but the fact of the matter is that after YEARS of research by "The Trio", the hard evidence has been found to support the Bednall version the Radio Caroline Story ....

Charles Orr Stanley and his son John were the real founding fathers of Radio Caroline.

The line has been drawn:
_______________________________________________________________

It is Anoraks versus Haggardly!

And down you go

16/6/2024 01:50:51 pm

Did they supply the ship? Did they supply the mast? Did they supply the infrastructure? Did they supply the logistics? Did they pay for the transmitters? Did they pay for any of the above?

A founder is someone who establishes an enterprise. Did they do that?

AND DOWN Y-O-U GO

16/6/2024 09:25:38 pm

If you haven't read the involved and documented Pye story from 1959 to 1964, you have nothing at all to write about or discuss. You are a bag of wind.

For Mervyn Hagger

17/6/2024 10:29:54 am

OK, then can you kindly provide a link or links to that documentation so that I might be better informed, please.

Chris Edwards

16/6/2024 04:07:42 pm

To state that Charles & John Stanley were the founders of Radio Caroline is perhaps akin to saying that Marconi invented radio, or that Sony invented the pocket transistor radio. It’s possible that the Stanleys had some financial involvement with Caroline, along with others like Stevens, Ross and Sheffield. Without clear evidence (letters, invoices, receipts, photo’s, witness statements) it’s not known what, if any, role the Stanleys played.
Some credit for helping to found Caroline should also go to Allan Crawford.
As for the die cast logo’s, as no Pye branded equipment was supplied to Radio Caroline, there would surely have been no need to use these. There were no false logo’s on the fronts of the Continental transmitters. Continental Electronics were a subsidiary company of US conglomerate LTV (Ling Temco Vought), which contemporary Continental adverts note, along with a list of radio station supplied with their transmitters, that includes Radio Caroline and the Diplomatic Wireless Service.

Meevyn to Chris

16/6/2024 09:52:32 pm

I will specifically answer all of your points. But first, why don't you begin to read the story of Pye from 1959 and events that led up to Radio Caroline in 1964? If you can't do that and discuss those points very specifically, you are just blowing wind.

Chris, you wrote: "It’s possible that the Stanleys had some financial involvement with Caroline,"

Obviously Chris you don't know the story from 1959 to 1964, or how Crawford had his dream taken away from him. PAL never ran out of money, Crawford just got pushed out of the way because he did not want to go with the Pye plan which was not to run offshore radio stations. Caroline was supposed to be a very short term venture of less than 1 year.

Chris, you also wrote: ".... along with others like Stevens, Ross and Sheffield."

Where do you get the idea that Sheffield had anything to do with it, and as for Ross, are you referring to the Wikipedia entry about Frozen Foods? The only place this Ross stuff originates is in Ian Cowper Ross' 1990 novel. That's it.

But Chris, you then state: "Without clear evidence (letters, invoices, receipts, photo’s, witness statements) it’s not known what, if any, role the Stanleys played."

You obviously have not read the documented history from 1959-1964, have you? If you had, you would discuss it, but you don't.

You add: "Some credit for helping to found Caroline should also go to Allan Crawford."

I originally thought that until I looked at the financial documentation in great detail, and obviously you have not! Crawford had little to do with any of it.

You continue: "As for the die cast logo’s, as no Pye branded equipment was supplied to Radio Caroline, there would surely have been no need to use these."

Chris, go back and read the original Bednall document - the one you found. You are way off course with your comment above. You just don't get it.

But this Chris, takes the cake: "There were no false logo’s on the fronts of the Continental transmitters."

Chris, I know and Eric knows all about LTV - his father worked for them! But what's this nonsense (again) about "false logos"? Where did that come from? It came from the book and NOT the document you discovered.

There were no "false logos', but there were 2 versions of the same REAL LOGO, and I have die cast pin showing the British version. I know what the American version looked like, and it was the version on the packing cases since the cases came from Texas to Europe, not the other way around.

The more you cling to the O'Rahilly-Ian Ross rubbish as promoted by that stooge Ray Clark (either he is totally stupid, or this ex-BBC employee is being paid to mislead. The reason being that even after all these years the big problem of exposure has nothing to do with rust buckets called ships, it has to do with a very, very hot political topic raging in 2024.)

Please Chris, do your homework! I do appreciate your initial find, but that was only the key to open the door. I have opened that door and the room inside is crammed full of evidence. (More than enough to write more than one book,)

Chris Edwards-----Scottg

16/6/2024 10:07:11 pm

Chris, 'some credit for helping found caroline should also go to Alan Crawford'. Could you please expand that paragraph. Thanks, Scottg.

To Chris from Mervyn

17/6/2024 09:05:15 am

On Thursday, April 6, 2017 2:46 PM - I sent you an email with information to follow-up concerning the life of Alan Bednall and his work for Pye.

You never followed it up.

I did.

At first I thought that the logo was 'CBC' because it was on the outside wall prefixing 'Radio Cambridge' in 1960 - long before that name was amended to CBC (Plays) Ltd and its use by Kitty Black who worked for Granada and was MARRIED!

Who Kitty Black married is another BIG part of this puzzle, but only recently have I found actual physical PROOF (beyond doubt) that 'CBC' was not the name on the die cast metal logo, and now I have a rendition of it in the form of a metal lapel pin.

My purpose of telling you this is because I have PROOF that I did my best to keep you (and a lot of other people) informed about the progress of my own continuing investigation - but YOU chose not to continue with the investigation.

I know it was a bad time for you personally, and my wife had recently died from IPF - the same mysterious illness ("idiopathic") that is now killing Johnnie Walker - because there is no cure.

So I continued with my two associates to investigate, and a LOT of our research has been posted in the past online by me - but YOU did not READ it, anymore that you have digested the actual words uttered by Alan Bednall. If you had, you would not be writing and posting such howling mistakes on Mike's Board!

However, I would still like to work WITH you - rather than against you. I became very cautious after Paul Alexander Rusling STOLE from me, but I sense that you have a higher standard of ethics than Rusling.

I am told that you will be going for "a pint" with someone else who has been EXTREMELY helpful in our investigation by suppling hard evidence. Who that person is I shall not name here. But that person, like Mike who owns this Board, is not beholden to me or my associates, but he, like Mike is an honorable person like Mike. I have asked your drink companion NOT to reveal what I have privately told him, but he does know a lot more than you do at this moment in time.

Therefore Chris, all I (we-'Trio') ask is that you act in an honorable manner and admit the obvious truth about O'Rahilly and Ian Cowper Ross and the idiotic manipulation by ex-BBC man Ray Clark who is a worse 'wolf in sheeps' clothing' than Rusling - except that Clark, has not stolen from us like Rusling. Clark is pushing the nonsense still on Wikipedia about 'Ross Frozen Foods'.

Your move, Chris. The hand of friendship has been extended.

Sunday morning discovery by Mervyn

17/6/2024 12:02:25 pm

Well, if the REAL story was not complicated enough, and scandalous enough (enough to make the Ian Ross / Ray Clark story look a bedtime story for a 2 year old), this morning I have JUST THIS MINUTE discovered the BIG, dark secret that Alan Bednall was hiding, and why his daughter Jane who contacted me, did not want to expand my knowledge of the Bednall story.

Again, it has been hiding in plain sight, but again, it is necessary to follow minute links in a thread to uncover this story.

Oh my oh my oh my. Has Ian Cowper Ross made fools out of everyone who believed in the Ronan O'Rahilly fairy tale!

The only way to unfold this entire story is in at least one book, but it would be so large that it would have to be in at least two volumes .... or more!

This latest bit of evidence came about thanks to hours (days) of solid research into the life and times of Alan Bednall, aided by a hint from a handwritten note I was given, and apparently found by Ray Clark (!) - about an offshore station venture called 'Radio Atalanta'.

I have already exposed 90% of that venture, but now I have just found another link that leads to another BIG scandal published over several days about an ongoing court case that took place in 1963!

Now, if you don't know what that refers to it means that you have not been paying attention to everything I have been revealing and publishing. Instead you have been posting obscure trivia on the Garry/Dave Boards.

Family Tree Guy

17/6/2024 01:58:55 pm

CNBC was first from Birkin Reff. Was CBC related. Could you please expand that paragraph. Thanks, Scottg eggs.

Scrambled

17/6/2024 08:30:46 pm

It was yoke to do with you.

Mervyn's Sunday Afternoon discovery

17/6/2024 02:08:10 pm

I assumed that the text in Radio Man was changed to protect the Stanleys from potential Official Secrets Act and related charges of 'double-dipping' while still working for the Crown Ministry of Defence, the US Defence Department via LTV ....until I stumbled across the real reason today!

My latest discovery is about a story originally published in 1962 and 1963 (simultaneously but unrelated to the beginnings of Radio Caroline. It was just prior to the murder of JFK. But its not about JFK, but it is about murders and blackmail from 1947 to 1962 that was discovered quite by chance.

Its time for Chris Edwards to throw in the towel so that we can all work together and rid the world of Ray Clark's total and utter "bullshit" (as a Texan would say.)

Mervyn's Monday is still fixed on Sunday

17/6/2024 02:45:43 pm

Yes, sorry about that, but I really am on the home stretch of finding the real story which is so amazing that its TV and even movie stuff that grabs audiences, not more rubbish set to a soundtrack.

Mike knows, and Chris Edwards could also know, if he will simply admit the obvious. Then we can all work together and get rid of Ray Clark's poison.

Mike (admin)

17/6/2024 08:12:04 pm

Just read this on the Garry Stevens Terminal Decline Board (they all come here now, even Dave Martin's lot).

Posted by Reg on June 15, 2024, 3:30 pm, in reply to "Jimmy Ross"

It’s funny how Hagger always has.a “bitch” to fly his flag. It used to be the man who single handed ruined this board a few years ago. Now, it is this Mike character who seems to “fag” for him.

Wonder how they fall under his influence? Certainly not his engaging personality. Maybe just angry people looking to lay blame.

So 'Reg' do you have the balls to email me with preferably a business address, so that I can arrange to have papers served on you?

No I thought not, anyway as your most likely on an OAP pension it would leave me out of pocket. You should be careful what you write down in a public forum, especially as some people know who you are libeling. Never mind your just a nobody who has done nothing for free radio except where a T shirt with Caroline on it (wow what a guy!!).

Rather than being a fag (that ages you doesn't it) or being angry I have just had a few days out enjoying myself with my loved ones, do you have any loved ones 'Reg' or do they not let visitors into the secure unit at your hospital?

Made Up Name

17/6/2024 09:55:05 pm

If I mention the Piccadilly Line, or Arthur Daley's manor you should be able to work out who I am Mike. Anyway I will email you but in the meantime please don't let the stupid anoraks who have done nothing but as you say worn a t shirt get you down. I remember how you funded J the P and how pissed off he was with the lazy sods on the Ross, who did nothing to keep the MV sound. Happy memories yet frustrating times, and the carb man was forever pissed down his pub.

James McGregor

17/6/2024 11:49:45 pm

If a TV researcher raised a laugh by asking our community if Eric Gotts was alive for that nice BBC Pirate documentary shown in 2014 and the clubs answer was ask a medium he's been gone for years, why has know it all about nothing Fred Brambly decided he passed away this March? Is Stuart Admin not aware of this new obituary of the talented trombone player or is Garry's board getting even more ridiculous by the day?

James McGregor

18/6/2024 12:02:26 am

I have read the thread Fred B refers to. So as not to make a fool of myself who is right about the lifespan of Eric? Fred does not seem to make the connection between Sealant and a rum punch however

To Chris Edwards on Fri 4/7/2017 2:05 PM from Mervyn Hagger

18/6/2024 08:15:34 am

Chris, This is the email you received on Friday 4/7/2017 at 2:05 PM from me, which seems to indicate that your recent posts on Mike's Board are not exactly an honest reflection of what you knew over 6 years ago!:

It was written in response to Jane Bednall, daughter of Alan Bednall and forwarded to you, by me ....

"Here is the section from page 276 of the book 'Radio Man' which takes your father's statement out of context in that it does not attach the information to him.

His name appears later with other parts of the same statement he gave to Nicholas.

However, the author inserted the word "fictitious" which was not in your father's original statement and in so doing it creates the impression that no such company existed.

Also attached is the separated sections of your father's statement to show that what he said is not what appeared in the book.

Clearly the author did not understand the statement that Nicholas showed him.

Your father said logos were made, but the book implies that PYE manufactured its equipment. Since we knew that to be untrue in that there were US transmitters on board made by Continental Electronics in Dallas, Texas, the book makes no sense.

However, your father spoke of paying for and supplying, not making the equipment.

Logos were made and emblems were made for the 'front' company which existed.

It was not 'fictitious'.

The fiction was in the fact that the company was not a manufacturer of radio equipment, but it was set up to imply that it was in order to hide the payments for the actual equipment made by Continental Electronics and supplied from Texas."

...............

Chris, now I know that the company was genuine and while it was not manufacturing radio BROADCASTING equipment, it was manufacturing radio related equipment in conjunction with LTV in Dallas who owned Continental Electronics.

So LTV attached THEIR version of the logo mentioned by Bedall which had a different PREFIX to the UK version which had PYE in front of it. The US version had LTV in front of it, but the second part of the logo was identical in name.

Why are you trying to pretend in 2024 that you did not know this in 2017?

The ONLY explanation I can think of is that if you now acknowledge what you learned back in 2017, it undermines your support for Ray Clark and his rubbish about Ronan O'Rahilly.

This is HARD evidence Chris that puts YOU in a very difficult position due to your posts on Mike's Board in this same thread!

You can PRETEND that you did not know, but the FACTS prove otherwise.

My offer to you still stands.

Do a reverse change course from deception and we can work together and I will then share with you what I now know.

PS: I have been informing MIke of my discoveries and the person you are soon to "have a pint" with, also knows about many of our recent discoveries, but not the amazing discovery over this past weekend. That is not only a shocker, but it explains why Nicholas Stanley told his paid authors of 'Radiio Man' not to connect the dots to Alan Bednall, and why key words in Nicholas Stanley's interview (the document YOU found), were also changed to hide a shocking story that made worldwide headline news at the time. (That is what I discovered this past weekend.)

For Mervyn Hagger

18/6/2024 11:29:11 am

I'll bump my request to Mervyn as it's got lost in the general meleè:

AND DOWN Y-O-U GO16/6/2024 09:25:38 pm
If you haven't read the involved and documented Pye story from 1959 to 1964, you have nothing at all to write about or discuss. You are a bag of wind.

For Mervyn Hagger17/6/2024 10:29:54 am
OK, then can you kindly provide a link or links to that documentation so that I might be better informed, please.

Who is "I" that wants to be "better informed"?

18/6/2024 04:33:39 pm

Are you "You a bag of wind."?

For Mervyn Hagger

18/6/2024 08:09:14 pm

I'll take that as a no then, and presume that you do not wish to help us mere mortals better understand, but prefer to keep it to yourself so that you can still sit on your high horse.

Mervyn Hagger with more SHOCKING REVELATIONS

18/6/2024 11:55:59 am

Now that I have this animal by its tail, it is squawking louder and louder, because the 'other' mystery book manuscript is also beginning to make sense.

This is Bill Weaver's book about the ship that became known as the Mi Amigo which was bought, cut in half, a new section added and a weird antenna with 'tuning boxes' added to its upper deck.

Bill Weaver said it was a CIA spy ship hiding under the name of Radio Nord. George Saunders, then a very young man who had been working for Marconi on a RADAR manual, was hired by an ex-BBC engineer working for the ex-BBC top man in transmitters now working for PYE.

Saunders (who was later hired by the Crown Foreign Office after he signed the Official Secret Act), went to work on a joint Continental Electronics venture broadcasting to Rhodesia. Saunders said those 'tuning boxes' on the Mi Amigo were "rubbish and threw one of them into the water at Greenore.

Now here's the rub:

When Bill Weaver inspected the ex-CIA ship in Spain, he walked around its hull in dry dock looking to see if the CIA equipment had been removed. It had.

But why look at the hull?

Because that is where the CIA radio equipment had been tacked on .... with those "tuning boxes".

Okay, so here comes specially selected George Saunders, fresh out of Marconi RADAR school as a textbook writer, and here is the Bednall PYE company tied to Continental Electronics who were building the Polaris radio station at Anthorn at the same time.

What a coincidence.

Ha!

More!

The PYE/LTV company referred to by Bednall made loudspeakers and ..."Geophysical survey apparatus and underwater transducers."

So what does a transducer do?

"Active sonar transducers emit an acoustic signal or pulse of sound into the water. If an object is in the path of the sound pulse, the sound bounces off the object and returns an “echo” to the sonar transducer."

So there you have it.

Radio Nord was a CIA spy ship anchored on one side of the Baltic Sea off Sweden, and on the other side of the Baltic Sea was the USSR nuclear submarine base.

As you know I belong to a communications museum group, and this year its exhibition is all about time/radar/sonar!

How helpful is all that to this investigation? Very, because the guys who created the exhibition were top men in their field of speciality: radio engineering!

Because the Baltic Sea is closed off from the North Sea and Atlantic Ocean by the Narrows formed by Demark on one side and Sweden on the other side, McLendon (who was tied to Radio Free Europe), bought Radio Mercur (as well as owning Radio Nord), because Mercur was on the Baltic Sea side of the Narrows and on the other side was a Polaris nuclear submarine controlled by the US Navy from Holy Loch base in Scotland and monitored by Anthorn (Continental Electronics.)

No wonder George Saunders broke off contact with me when I started to investigate and take apart his dealings with MI6 and CIA - because he signed the Official Secrets Act. You KNOW that they are reading this thread (and its related published material. I wonder when they will decide that "enough is enough", because this stuff is getting awfully close to their classified secrets?

So what did George Saunders do?

He turned to ridicule of the Radio Nord equipment which was installed by the TOP MAN at CIA and US Navy for marine radio installations - including the radio ship Courier!

Time's up you folks at the Crown MI6, etc., etc., etc., and time's up too for all of your idiot helpers who thought that Radio Caroline was all about Georgie Fame and pop music.

The truth is now revealing itself by the hour and since it is being shared, this Genie is out of the bottle, and we have our own Genie (Baskir) waiting in the wings to tell all to the world.

Read all about it

18/6/2024 05:45:59 pm

https://www.lobster-magazine.co.uk/article/issue/79/the-cia-and-radio-nord-simon/

Mervyn Hagger

18/6/2024 08:42:02 pm

.... AND WHERE DO YOU SUPPOSE THEIR INFORMATION CAME FROM?

ME!

Years ago and so there info is out of date just as our information has been continually updated.

Really?

19/6/2024 11:38:09 am

I'm surprised that you weren't acknowledged or credited, then.

Chris Edwards

18/6/2024 12:14:13 pm

When I originally joined Mervyns group, I’d understood that it was to be an investigation into the origins of Radio Caroline, taking a “cold case” approach and looking for hard evidence.
I eventually left as there seemed to be much theory and opinion that was trying to be presented as fact, without clear evidence. Plus then there was the nonsense and pretence of Caroline Brooks.
Now we still have the theory and opinion, and still without hard evidence. … and then I read the nonsense that Ian Ross’s daughter is allegedly using Ray Clark’s book to finance a business venture.
As for Mervyns “hand of friendship”, it does seem like a puppets hand (or even a Putin ceasefire proposal) with strings attached, in that I would be expected to agree with and accept Mervyns views, and castigate those who didn’t agree.
So thank you Meryvn, I won’t be joining your group. I won’t waste further time, and I’ll leave you to write your book/books. Maybe then our views will change – or maybe not.
I wish you well.

Mervyn Hagger

18/6/2024 08:58:24 pm

Your call and your decision which I accept and will move on.

As for MOST of what you claim is just our hypothesis (standard scientific and crime detectives use this same model to prove or disprove by testing), we are now very close to having definitive answers based upon court room standards of proof.

There are just so many liars out there which has made this task very difficult.

As for Ray Clark, he is a total fraud, and so is Ian Cowper Ross who has led you on a merry chase since 1990, and since we invested hard cash to discover what his daughter is up to, I suggest that your ridicule is based upon hot air.

So wrap yourself around Wiikipedia and Ross Frozen Foods.

But when did you ever investigate the real background to:
Ian Cowper Ross and his father?
The answer is you never have.

When did you ever explain to OEM readers who Kitty Black married? It seems that you don't know that she was married!

Chris, you are still misquoting the document you found at Wroughton.
Now that is either sloppy, or it is being intentionally dishonest.

I made the offer and you turned it down.

Your call which is accepted, but please stop misquoting me and the material you found.

Mervyn Hagger

18/6/2024 09:08:35 pm

Dear Chris, stop spreading MORE lies.

Ian Cowper Ross' daughter began rebuilding her own life with help from her dad. Ray Clark has merely taken the nonsense invented by Ian Cowper Ross and recycled it with his own name. As for Ian's daughter, she remarried a billionaire who has paid to relaunch a franchise version of the roller disco in Los Angels that was shut down by LA Police as an unlicensed venue serving up illegal drugs. Her new ventures are building on her dad's lost foot which was the only real contribution to the LA venture. As usual Chris, you are misstating facts in evidence to prop up the Georgie Fame - Ronan O'Rahilly rubbish.

The cold case investigation you refer to is just about complete, and it has followed both academic, scientific and crime detection methodology. You seem to be following hot air.

Scottg

18/6/2024 10:03:13 pm

Chris E, in the 1980's and early 90's, I used to get my copies of Offshore Echos from Anoraks UK, Blackpool. From Radio Mercur, Radio Veronica, Radio Nord, Radio Atlanta and finally Radio Caroline, do any documents of the original business and operational plans, currently exist? Scottg.

Chris Edwards

19/6/2024 10:41:02 am

The Project Atlanta shareholders list and Planet Productions company documents exist, we have covered both in Offshore Echo's, as well as some of the Pye story.

SLIPPERY

18/6/2024 06:08:26 pm

SCOTT G=GEORGE SAUNDERS

James Scott

18/6/2024 08:59:50 pm

Larry Sanders ghost say the wicked gambling world of making a fuss about nothing is well and truly 1/10 on to be a dead cert

20/6/2024 01:02:11 am

A second Conservative candidate is being looked into by the Gambling Commission over a bet relating to the timing of the general election, the BBC can reveal.

Laura Saunders is the party’s candidate in Bristol North West and has worked for the party since 2015.

It is understood she worked most recently in the party’s International Division – a department of Conservative Campaign Headquarters which liaises with other centre-right parties around the world.

It is not known when the bet was placed or for how much money.

Essex Boys

18/6/2024 09:21:16 pm

Posted by Essex Boy on June 18, 2024, 5:10 pm, in reply to "Re: Jimmy Ross"
In what possible world can this statement by Mr Hagger have any credence whatsoever?

"Ray Clark is defrauding his buyers with a FAKE story that is being promoted on international media for the benefit of a brand new business operated in both New York and London.
Behind the scam is the daughter of lan Cowper Ross who is the real author of the early text about the start of Radio Caroline in 1964."

-------------------------------------- Ahh yes, let's discuss Mr Gotts instead because I am not going to fork out money to discover the evidence to prove that Haggerly is right and I am wrong.

If Haggardly (or whatever his name is), turns out to be right and we lot are just as stupid as he says we are, well I for one will start discussing the evils of Tony Benn and Harold Wilson because they are dead and they can't disagree with me and besides which, no one will care what I say.

I am repeating myself, no one cares now.

Maybe I should call myself Sussex Boy and start talking about the marvels and wonders of Sealand.

Long live Roy Bates!

I know he's dead, but I can dream, can't I?

Essex Boy

19/6/2024 09:13:50 am

You forgot the rest of my post:

'I have no doubt that Hagger has uncovered some hitherto unknown history of Radio Caroline but it is impossible to separate that from his flights of fancy and his unproven deductions from actual facts. Therefore he is best ignored as clearly nothing he says can be taken at face value. A shame, but there it is.'

James McGregor

20/6/2024 08:22:20 pm

The post by Larry Sanders makes me laugh almost as much as the real Garry Shandling. Mainly because I wrote it as Larry!

How many hundreds of thousands and million squillion of currency £$ EU whatever are made by politicians knowing there will be a policy change here there and everywhere. War there ? Defence stocks rise here. Tarde deal on the cars, buy more whatever over here, in your wife, husbands name. I don't like to bet on a horse says the trainer but my wife does like a flutter

This witch hunt over a party member or the security guard chauffer having a well informed bit of information hoping to profit from the astronomical sum of what they will lose under the next government anyway, to my feeble brain pathetic

A bookie runs shy of any bet that has a liability of over £500, but over time is quite happy to let the naïve empty any amount into their pockets with the pious statement of encouraging responsible gambling

Gambling is hoping to profit through chance

If a government connection knows a huge political decision like a war or a contract is going to be awarded and profits from that. Then that to my mind is insider trading and corruption. But even that does not bother me. Frankly I just think good for insider traders and sort of wish I had good tips on the cell phone scanner!

I know from personal experience that real gambling IE hoping to profit through chance is not insider investing but a muggins way of transferring money from gullible to the cunning

I understand that Poker might have some edge of skill but believe you me

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A WINNING SYSTEM FOR ANY OTHER GAME

Oh hang on I am Rainman a card counting MP

Just call me Raymond D Selected

5 minutes till Wapner

5 minutes till Wapner

14 Days till the 4th of July when accounts will be seriously unsettled

Tom Cruise Control will see Charlie Babble on the gravy train clutching his Sony Watchman and telling his reformed brother K Mart PM suits suck

LINE IN THE SAND = WHO IS TELLING THE TRUTH?

19/6/2024 12:04:00 pm

Who was the person who began Radio Caroline? Was it:

a) Ronan O'Rahilly as described by Ian Cowper Ross and endorsed by Ray Clark which involved a person named 'Jimmy Ross' who is claimed to be the father of Ian Cowper Ross whose actual name is Charles Edward Ross?

Or was it:

b) Charles Orr Stanley as claimed in the Institute of Electrical Engineers book published by Nicholas Stanley and written by an accredited journalist and an accredited technical writer, as modified by the Wroughton document found by Chris Edwards and dictated by Alan Bednall?

It cannot be both a) and b) because one says O'Rahilly and the other one says Stanley.

In the case of b) Chris Edwards discovered the authentic statement by Alan Bednall which did not appear in the IEE book as original rendered by Alan Bednall. So b) includes the Chris Edwards' discovery at Wroughton.

The only court-room and academia-tested authenticated documentation is b) as discovered by Chris Edwards.

Version a) did not appear in its full-blown form until 1990 and the novel by Ian Cowper Ross and then held out to be true on BBC-TV by Ian Cowper Ross and republished by Ray Clark.

What is happening now is that the water is being muddled to the point that the factual basis of the origins of Radio Caroline has been obfuscated.

Hagger endorses the b) version amended by the Chris Edwards Wroughton document which claims that the founder is Charles Orr Stanley because a) lacks any foundation of truth or proof.

The choice is yours:

Do you believe a LIE, or do you believe the TRUTH?

Chris Edwards

19/6/2024 10:18:40 pm

Just to clarify, whilst I discovered the Bednall document in the Pye archives, I'm not making any claims that it's courtroom and academic tested, or even that the plan was carried out.
Mervyn has his interpretation of the document, which I'd posted the relevant parts here. I'll l make no further comment and leave it for people to decide how they interpret it..

Lying in the sand

20/6/2024 12:26:43 pm

OK, I've read just about everything that you have suggested I read and I have read your deductions and reasoning. I cannot find any irrefutable evidence that Charles Orr Stanley founded Radio Caroline. You can repeat that he did all you want, but until such time as you publish the proof it remains speculation. So far the 'court-room and academia-tested' so called evidence is not that. It merely shows that Stanley/PYE may have had some hand in supplying transmitters, that's all. This ,of course, doesn't mean to say that theory (a) holds water either.

AgB

19/6/2024 07:01:42 pm

Mike can we have this thread locked,and a part two started its far too long scolling 200+posts to find latest its easy to miss what's relevant.
AgB.

James

20/6/2024 11:38:41 pm

Hi AGB, Sorry, I'm on old tech and I can scroll down and check updates on my hi tech (nearly out of date W10) just as well as you or any other obsessive. If you can't get down to Argos on line who seriously have good shrewd buyers for their mostly on line department store and IMO do pick very good - basic - mid range - top end household goods from good top brands and sell effortlessly at lower prices than tearing you hair out in frustration and comparing every other fly by night potential rip off

I don't know why I felt the need to say that probably a washing machine repair day

Juneteenth has actually arrived with Mike and the freedom from the slavery of 150 posts from one man apart from me - has now moved onto Julyteenth

I guess it will not be much different. In fact I have made sure it will not be, by making sure I was on there first in the effortless effort to be just like my hero Mervyn and redact the calendar back onto the endless debate over how the weight of pirate radio ships guilt in the 1960's has, by 2024 caused see hear levels to rise up to submerge the spiritual home of Frinton in shame

Obviously what I have just penned is complete ballot ballocks and I obviously love talking about that fascinating form of broadcasting just as much as you and Mervyn and Scottg

At least 4 of 40 fans of a listen ship of 400,000 who know absolutely no more or nothing less about how to steer the reformation of pirate radio to a safe new book or 3 of common prayer

Mervyn Hagger and the Evidence

20/6/2024 07:55:24 am

I got involved with the investigative search for evidence back in 1985, and everything has been documented in broadcasts and in publications along the way, but in 2024 the only response seems to be in the form of personal attack on those performing the investigation,, and not about the evidence.

Garry Stevens appears to be the one who began this approach and he was aided by Malcolm Smith who has a lot to lose once the evidence becomes widely known.

It is unfortunate that Chris Edwards has chosen not to simply misstate evidence that HE found, but to join in the personal attack. What Chris discovered was a key bit of evidence that led to a new phase of this investigation with a lecture and published monograph in 2015. Now, in 2024, just this past weekend the motive for the deception has been uncovered as well, and it is truly shocking and a story in itself.

But although the true story behind the start of Radio Caroline in 1964 is more-or-less now uncovered, including the events from 1959 to 1964 that led up to its creation, the personal attacks continue. Where it suited those doing the attacking to steal our research and try to use parts of it to their own financial gain, has been another problem, because they did not admit error, but tried to use our research to support their own false claims.

In terms of scientific, academic and criminal investigative research, our work in 2024 is about 90% complete, but it is in the form of monographs written to meet academic standards, and not in the form of pop music fan publishing. Therefore the pop music fans do not read it.

It is pointless trying to answer these attacks when the attackers are not interested in the evidence, only on trying to hamper the research. Consequently until such time that very specific evidentiary questions are raised, I will not be making further comments on this thread about the origins of Radio Caroline.

Lest anyone figures that the personal attacks won, let me assure you that both the academic and journalistic mass media publications will continue to the point that the evidence becomes widely known and accepted as the authentic story about the creation in 1964 of Radio Caroline.

Ask a VERY SPECIFIC question about the evidence and I may respond. To general comments I will no longer respond.

Problem Gambler

20/6/2024 11:42:59 pm

Is this a promise?

"It is pointless trying to answer these attacks when the attackers are not interested in the evidence, only on trying to hamper the research. Consequently until such time that very specific evidentiary questions are raised, I will not be making further comments on this thread about the origins of Radio Caroline."

I am not betting on it! LOL....

Sing the Redemption Songs

20/6/2024 08:31:40 pm

I am surprised, not really that PAR now proclaims JIM Spud Murphy was a nasty piece of work yet as well as Martin Rhome? of PTT getting standing ovation in later years and Jim welcomed to Ross Revenge by smiling wolf man Moore and on his demise praised by PM as a great poetry writer and honorary fan

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