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Eric Blair & 1984

12/3/2023

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An interesting viewpoint on 1984 and Eric Blair (George Orwell but you know that) must have been on the Autism spectrum somewhere with his ability to examine history and extrapolate out the likely journey that the power hungry and manipulative excessively wealthy few would take.

Today we have the trans tyrannical thought police in full swing along with a number of other 1984 indent's becoming oh so apparent. Anyone for a hate crime?
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Who listens? link
12/3/2023 07:30:04 pm

On May 12, 1987 this program was recorded for distribution on land-based free radio stations, but most of them did not understand free radio, they thought it meant playing old records without a government license.

Some stations carried it.

Now you can hear what was being warned of by Eric Blair who worked for the BBC before he wrote a novel, and decades before the BBC told the world that it is 100 years old - when it is only 95 years old.

Now you can lose your job if you dare to refer to 'men' and 'women' because there is no such thing as male and female.

Then along came the puddin-basin man who got involved with Laser 558 but he was really part of 'Big Brother' and the record 'I spy for the DTI' was lost on him. Charlie Wolf came to understand what was going on and so he went back to school and ironically the BBC and others interviewed him for his non-Woke Donald Trump ideas.

Yes, you can lead a bunch of cattle to the water to drink, but if these cattle are owned by people like Malcolm Smith and the Puddin'-Basin Biological Mass, then the cattle with driven from the water to the desert.

The thread begins with teenage non-penis people. Watch the old newsreels and see them scream for Adolph Hitler, and Frank Sinatra and Dancing on Ice. Once that slice of the marketplace is brainwashed the rest of Society falls into step now that to oppose them is to be accused of rape, racism, and any one of a number of other silly ideas.

The BBC loves idiots and unfortunately it looks as if the day is coming with AI that it will be impossible to resist the new Woke dictionary of 2050.

How come no one else has noticed this sub-plot in the book 'Nineteen Eighty-Four', or to observed that all that Blair/Orwell had to do was invert Roosevelt's Four Freedoms.

You are right. No one listened to the attached broadcast .... except for a bunch of teens living in Eastern Europe and in the USSR. They wrote to our mailing address in Venus, Texas.

But the listeners to Laser in England, well they didn't get it at all - although some of the djs did and they made that record 'I spy for the DTI'.

Now the BBC is embroiled in a nonsense campaign resulting from a commentator on a sports show and his off air comments about immigration.

Instead of worrying about his comments it is time to worry when you are told that you are neither a man or a woman, because they don't exist, and therefore you don't exist other than as a number in service to Big Brother.

It is 2023. It is getting late, because 2050 is looming closer and closer.

Are you a Puddin'-Basin Blob - or are you a real human being who thinks?

https://www.mixcloud.com/mervyn-hagger/4fws-may-12-1987-big-brother-part-two/

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And your starter for 10. Spot the different similarity
12/3/2023 08:02:27 pm

From: James McGregor
Sent: 12 March 2023 19:58
To: Garry Stevens
Subject: RE: Spot the foot ball Garry?

Are you sure this is an original comment Garry? Or did Peter Cook Ban you

Posted by Devin K on March 12, 2023, 1:16 pm, in reply to "Re: 648 POWER LEVEL / SIGNAL"
Just taking a quick coffee break from the hymns to say thanks to all who give up their lives for a weekend to bring me Caroline North just as I give up my life for several days before as I await the schedule to be published in order I can post it here, there and everywhere.

Thanks to all for another great weekend., much better than the last but not as good as the one to come.

Onwards and upwards

Dev

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Kevin D15/2/2023 10:05:45 am

I am not sure anyone in reality is running scared of Mervyn Hagger. Only in his mind.

Now following this coffee break, off to sing more hymns whilst working in the garden and wait poised for approximately one month in order to be the first to post the Radio Caroline North schedule.

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I wrote the second song for Wilson the Canary’s board Garry
And you have woke up and copied it using the passing of act

And banning me for telling you point blank I used the name Peter Cook to get posted

I don’t mind like, but you know??-

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English Heritage is English Big Brother Rubbish
14/3/2023 07:56:54 am

On the idiot Garry Stevens' Board, Agb has posted this link: https://www.heritagegateway.org.uk/Gateway/Results_Single.aspx?uid=1524502&resourceID=19191

The sources are listed and every one of them is an idiot anorak unresearched source. There is no mention of Bill Weaver, a claim that Merit Music (Crawford) bought the Mi Amigo in 1962.

This is why Malcolm Smith, Paul Rusling, Ray Clark and all the rest are not just little bed bugs but termites eating away at the fabric of truth about the past. They are agents of Big Brother.

So now, children of the future don't have to rely upon Rusling and Clark for their misinformation, the Crown endorsed English Heritage will officially corrupt little pea brain minds.

Hitler succeeded and Stalin succeeded and the British Crown Empire succeeded in ruining individual lives because the opposition did not begin until it was too late. The Crown of Belgium chopped off African hands to teach people a lesson that to challenge the monarchy is to challenge their god.

Orwell called their god 'Big Brother' and today, its snivelling, cowardly, self-serving termites are known as Malcolm Smith, Paul Rusling, Ray Clark and many other names.

Just think of them as 'hand choppers' to render pens less mightier than the swords of Big Brother.

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AgB
15/3/2023 10:32:58 pm

yes I did post that link,Freddie archer copied. no respose except kd,wonder why?.

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deserted island discs. shipwrecked audiences ebbing and flowing with the tide
15/3/2023 11:16:11 pm

An example of how Peter M is running things now is convincing himself that a popular hour long request show ruins the rest of the day. Peter knows these things he carefully watches his web streams!!!

Years ago he stopped paying for 60 seconds of Sky news fearing that listeners would tune out looking for music and last month got rid of a jock for mentioning non sponsored music gigs!!!

More or less now admitting he is just one more backround commercial radio station out to screw it's frequencies for all it can get while trading on the apparant uniqueness and invididual listener supported 819 overnight alernative love ins of the past

He wants to be a niche but as long as it's a populist niche and someone someway some how keeps sending him money and telling him how wonderful he is.

There is more of The O Rahilly in his eye than the one he denies

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James McGregor
16/3/2023 10:33:52 pm

That Russel Brands getting a bit too smart these days. I much prefrerred him when he was like Katie Hopkins and ignoramouses could make fun of them without listening to their persoanal top 15 hates in case they were honest on the record

https://youtu.be/gu99k7f5y-g

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A dilemma
19/3/2023 05:25:22 pm

There is a new book out which Hagger will be desperate to have, but all proceeds go to the Ross Revenge charity. He'll probably get someone else to buy it for him.

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Admin - Mike
20/3/2023 06:56:43 pm

Unlike you Mervyn buys books in his own name & doesn't need to hide his identity. How do I know? Well he sent me both versions of Paul Rusling's Bible Joke Book to review but I gave up with all the nonsense & typo's.

Your the one that sounds a bit desperate, no make that totally desperate.Why have you hid your identity and IP hopped twice today with equally lame and unpublished comments?

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AgB
21/3/2023 12:40:01 am

nice response mike,its a shame you have let your once interesting forum become a refuge for the snipers,trolls and idiots from other places you should continue to be more strict on your moderation and return radio now and then too its former incarnation.
AgB.

Mervyn Hagger
21/3/2023 12:25:05 pm

I did buy and PAY for the new book, and guess what, they REFUNDED my money. In other words this "charity" is very selective who they allow in. Seems like that is a violation of the terms and conditions of being a charity. See http://www.yesternoir.org/ for PROOF of this.

Mervyn Hagger
21/3/2023 12:33:35 pm

Why bother with this Orwellian argument? The answer is to be found on Fox news today https://www.foxnews.com/us/squatters-torment-homeowners-across-u-s-with-no-resolution-sight-problem

"If somebody is living in a home and saying 'hey, I signed a lease, I'm paying rent, I have a right to be here,' whether or not that’s true the police hear that story then they hear a story of somebody who's not living there and saying 'this is my place these people don't belong here,' the police officer can't make that legal determination," Burling said. "It's not their job. That's not their bailiwick. If you have that kind of dispute it has to go to court."

So, if the BBC comes along and says we are 100 years old and no one challenges it, then the BBC is 100 years old.

If Ronan O'Rahilly and Malcolm Smith say that 'Radio Caroline' was begun by Ronan O'Rahilly and named after 5-6- years old Caroline Kennedy, and no one challenges it.

Well, Ronan O'Rahilly began 'Radio Caroline' and named it after 5-6 years old Caroline Kennedy.

If you can it with a house made of bricks and wood, you can certainly do it with paper and ink.

That is why these LIES that are still being spread by MALCOLM SMITH or as he also calls himself, Peter Moore, must be stopped now because in two generations time only the LIES will be available and that is exactly what Orwell was trying to explain in his book 'Nineteen Eighty-Four'.

James McGregor
25/3/2023 12:14:22 am

If an actress does not bump into him

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A Guy who Fawkes about to set off fireworks
25/3/2023 08:38:01 pm

here really is something bad going on, isn't there? Across the globe. Something is entwining far above the country by country legislative process. We are being manipulated and prepared for servitude. But why? And to whom? Or what?

Shaun Atkins
21/3/2023 07:49:59 am

I have sent a message to Mervyn Hagger because, following the rejection of his book purchase request, he has claimed that the Ross Revenge charity number is not displayed on the relevant website and threatens to advise the relevant authorities.

This is incorrect. The charity number is clearly displayed on the home page. I hope he hasn't already made a fool of himself again, and will delete the erroneous post.

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Mervyn Hagger
21/3/2023 01:36:06 pm

Clearly Shaun is either brain damaged or one of the anorak children hiding out in his bedroom and waiting for Mummy to call him down for teatime.

His earlier comments were posted and responded to, but then he wet his nappy and got frothy. The comment says that the number does not appear on the Malcolm Smith site and it doesn't. The other point is that the so-called charity says on the one hand that it is not a part of something else, when its name and explanation says that it is.

Who is Peter Moore? He claims to be the CEO, but for that to be true Malcolm Smith must have legally changed his name. Meanwhile, on the Companies House both Malcolm Smith and Peter Moore appear as two different human beings.

Now this "charity" responds in the name of Steve Anthony with the 'Radio Caroline' address, claims to be acting on behalf of the charity which pretends that it has nothing to do with 'Radio Caroline' as a "subsidiary".

If this isn't more of the same old, same old silly and childish anorak nonsense then its a good representation of the Puddin' Basin thief writ large.

What's that?

Shaun, your Mummy is calling you.

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Shaun Atkins
23/3/2023 06:21:28 am

Well, let's see what response you receive from the Charity Commission. Be sure to publish it. I'm sure you are right about everything.

Mervyn Hagger
21/3/2023 01:57:56 pm

I am an academic investigator and reporter examining the origins and background of a venture called 'Radio Caroline' which primarily existed from March 1964 until mid-August 1967.

The person responsible for the charity in question is going by two names. He is using his correct legal name of Malcolm Smith on your forms, but a bogus name of Peter Moore on his charity page. On the UK Companies House web site is a company that is directly tied to the charity, and the CEO of the charity has used both names to imply that they are two different people.

I paid for a book advertised on the charity page and shortly afterwards one of the three listed trustees on your site, wrote that he was refunding my payment.

It is clear that the purpose of this charity and the registered company are one and the same while pretending to be two different ventures.

Evidence shows that this charity is operating in a deceitful manner to solicit money from the public using false pretense.

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Bob Meade where are you?
23/3/2023 12:17:06 pm

Bob Meade, like his mentor Malcolm Smith hides behind a silly phony name to attack Mervyn Hagger. Bob Meade calls himself Freddie Archer when he does this and Malcolm Smith calls himself Peter Moore to swindle the public and attack Mervyn Hagger.

Come on Malcolm, why else would you claim to be two different people on the government Companies House web site, and on the Charity web site use your real name and on your swindle site for the same charity which you claim has nothing to do with 'Radio Caroline', then use your fake name?

Suddenly you lot have gone quiet.

Bob Meade taunts that we will never publish while we continue publish without asking anyone for money. You lot ask (beg) for money and Paul Rusling who prints on demand to sell rubbish to you lot, is also after money.

So the truth in court room detail, the evidence, hard evidence to court room standards is being published about your Liar-in-chief Ronan O'Rahilly and suddenly you go quiet.

We know you are reading this post and the continuing part work about the origins of Radio Caroline, yet you pretend that they don't exist. Well the fake IDs that you use don't exist, that is true, but how do your fans believe anything you lot write, unless they either can't read or they are virtually brain dead, or, and wait for it, you are really just one big criminal gang out to steal money by false pretenses.

So which is it?

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Shaun Atkins
23/3/2023 05:57:48 pm

I think that the kindest course of action is to ignore you, which is what most people do and I will do the same henceforth.

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Shaun will never admit that he is wrong
24/3/2023 12:34:27 pm

I am right, I am right, I have to be right because I cannot admit that I am wrong so I will ignore everyone who says that I have been silly and taken in to support a very silly idea. I am right, I am right, I am right and I will go to my grave saying that I am right. So there. Now that will teach you.

SHORN WOOD
24/3/2023 03:12:43 pm

THE WAY GARRY IS SHAVING HIS BOARD WILL SOON BE NOTHING BUT SORE DUST

James MacReady. He who knows nowt. A poor comedian now lost for words. Now praising Dave Martin
23/3/2023 07:40:42 pm

I have lost track of what is going on Dave. Garry has given me the needle. Is the saga available on Album 33 rpm with stand up pick ups Stanton 5000 bottles of wine

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Get the Story Straight
25/3/2023 12:12:02 am

Mervyn, You claim PM does not care FA about FA then you say he is his mentor

Who is the Minotaur and who is the Medusa here?

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Garry Stevens and Dave Martin Please Translate
25/3/2023 12:30:20 pm

A) PM is a false name.
B) What is FA?
C) What is MH doing to you now?

James McGregor
25/3/2023 08:13:23 pm

Peter has been flushed out of the houseboat to give another old Shakespereance quote. Which Fredde then praises like the Ides of March

The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune are now all falling down all around

And then the clocks go back and it is all forgotten in the morning

I forgot to listen to PA, the theatre of the mind today. Because I have lost my mind and I forget who I am everyday. I am sure it was a great day for more great albums, more great music, all thanks to Peter A and the other Peter M. I hope the latter sues the arse off Mervyn if he has got a pot to pee in

That will show him who is a skunk and who is a lying toad

And a Yorkshire public broadcast expert in every crafty beery eyed tale going will be very jealous that Peter has pulled the pint to pay Paul off

Piking yourself in the foot
25/3/2023 09:58:30 am

Posted by F Pike on March 25, 2023, 9:37 am
Why is Agb sneaking around the Hagger forum and feeding him what he thinks are "interesting" links. Little does he realise that Hagger, like most others, know that he constantly gets things wrong and has no credibility whatsoever!

a) Hagger can read book offers for himself. He does not Agb to prompt him.
b) Hagger buys books for the Trio's Library.
c) The Scam Charity for the Ross Revenge which is linked to a Malcolm Smith enterprise that Garry Stevens constantly attacks, would not sell Hagger a book which it is advertising. Clearly that is discrimination since Hagger paid the scam Charity for the book.
d) The book does not cover the period from 1964-1967 which Hagger is concentrating upon and which Garry Stevens offered endless praise to Hagger before Garry Stevens decided to hate Hagger and love Malcolm Smith, until Malcom Smith disavowed Stevens and then Stevens disavowed Smith while still disavowing Hagger.
e) All of which raises the question whether you heard you Mum yelling to you to come down for tea and stop wasting time writing rubbish?
f) Free advice: Listen to your mother because everyone is laughing at that "F------ Pike" for attacking Agb who is as much in the dark as you are.
g) Good laughs had by all.
h) Now read the Trio's latest rant in progress. It is quite informative and you will definitely learn something worth knowing.
i) Let Garry get on with splicing together old and brittle tape.

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The winged Hornet
25/3/2023 08:01:46 pm

I am stung by new information which threatens my nest

At my supporters expense my lawyer will draft a cease and desist letter

Puffing up my ego to my loyal and faithful supporters of 10 puffins and a stranded whale. But I hope Garry allows McGregor to return soon because I really miss him talking backwards like a leftover anorak from the director's cut of Deliverance

A cult film that Ronan suggested and I directed then and now when I feel like slagging him off. McGregor that is not Ronan who is still always on my mind as a bargaining chip for National Heritage

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James McGregor I think
25/3/2023 08:56:32 pm

I just had a woke up senior moment there and am worried I might have said something appropriate like Merve is mad

It was a wkke up call and I of course being completley sane realise I am not and his word is his bond

Sorry Mervyn

Besties

James

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Garry Stevens, I who am HE
25/3/2023 12:37:20 pm

Posted by Garry Stevens on March 25, 2023, 12:41 pm, in reply to "Re: Why?"
Edited by board administrator March 25, 2023, 1:01 pm

I am the Board Admin and I am Garry Stevens who cuts up old tapes and streams them for the 8 no 7 no 6 no 5 no 4 no 3 no 2 no .... yes ME the one and only legend of hypocrisy, stupidity and well hate of Peter Moore because he at least is doing something real, unlike me.

I am the Word and the Word was with Garry Stevens.

Now will anyone dare to challenge that fact?

Here is what I say and what I say is the only truth about anything that exists or has ever existed (in my own mind). Challenge the truth of my words if you dare:

"Hagger is best ignored and given a very wide birth. Every comment made by him is ether fantasy, or at best laughable. The man has truly zero credibility and his rantings totally frivolous."

Garry Stevens

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Charity Commission
25/3/2023 12:39:53 pm

Shaun asked for our response. Well here it is:

Malcolm Smith is entitled to say whatever he wants to say and to be whoever he wants to be.

We do not investigate claims.

We follow exactly the same procedure as Metropolitan Police.

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Ralph Wingate
25/3/2023 12:54:40 pm

I have been directed to the "forums" relating to discussions about Radio Caroline. I do not understand why there seems to be a constant attack on one person, and yet not a single fact has been challenged as to the truth, partial truth or no truth at all of what that person has written elsewhere. What is most peculiar is that on both of these social media chat forums the advice given is to ignore the facts because the Administrators do not like the person. This leads me to the conclusion that neither forum is really interested in the subject of radio and they mainly use these forums as an excuse to attack mainly one person, and not what that person has written. Why is that?

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Walph Ringate
27/3/2023 05:29:21 pm

Hi, Mervyn. How's it going

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Thanks Garry and Dave
25/3/2023 01:01:49 pm

I thought for a moment that both of you wanted me to pay you more money than our agreed sum per month, because there has been a noticeable lack of personal attack messages of late.

I am pleased that you have now both decided to honour our agreement and resume the attacks. However, might I suggest that next time, if there is a next time when you both go 'quiet', that you do not resume your attacks at the same time. This gives an air of coordination and the idea of paying you was to make sure that the attacks looked and sounded genuine.

Please keep this in mind.

If Garry is unsure what Dave will do or vice versa, you can simply text the other person and ask for their schedule and then act accordingly.

So far your work has proved to be good value for money spent.

Keep up the good work.

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Why doesm't Hagger proof check for missing words and typos?
25/3/2023 03:28:32 pm

Good question.

Ask Paul Rusling.

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Mark King
25/3/2023 03:34:54 pm

OMG, someone just told me that MH works for Microsoft and he is one of the people behind Bing Chat Bot. He will now libell me I expect. (I wasn't sure how to spell that word and so I had a look to see how Garry spells it.)

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Practical Machanics Magazine
29/3/2023 02:17:50 am

Practical Spark Plugger

Yes that special Stevens speeling seems to be a major shortcoming of the "AI" bots, they cannot read PDF's and I imagine they ignore forums also, they scan websites, which is bound to lead to misinformation. What is really needed is a bot that can scan published works from the Rustling library which are generally more reliable than random websites which can be manipulated up the search page order by various means.

Sadly these "things" are being integrated into the various Anorak Assistants, and AgB browsers.

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AgB Now Works for Hagger
25/3/2023 05:16:18 pm

Posted by Walter S on March 25, 2023, 2:59 pm, in reply to "Re: Why?"
Totally agree Garry - is AgB , Scotty G's lapdog/feeder?

That was then.

Now he plants leads for MH to follow up

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The voice of sanity amongst the Yesterbollocks
25/3/2023 06:28:38 pm

Posted by Peter Moore on 25/3/2023, 16:45:08, in reply to "Bing Chat Bots "AI" et al"
Thanks Guys,

I have taken advice concerning Mervyn and am confident that I am not the only person who he has targeted to have done so. I was told that I surely have been libelled/defamed with direct accusations of fraud and obtaining money under false pretences.
What is particularly hurtful is the suggestion that I am ' topping up my mechanics income ' by these alleged means. I gave up the motor trade in 1998. I do not earn and never have earned anything from Radio Caroline. The job consumes all my time and costs me money.
I am told that one cannot plead not guilty to libel by reason of insanity. My lawyer states, sensibly, that Mervyn does not think he is insane and that while a ' cease and desist ' letter may work on a person who is just mistaken or has over stepped the mark, that Mervyn may view it as a challenge and become even more extreme.
This would oblige me to act but then even when the case is proven in my favour I would not recover all my costs and if any award of damages was made there is no certainty that I would ever receive them.

Maybe I will just suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune until such time as Mervyn's brain implodes or he gets treatment or is sectioned.

PM.

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Mervyn Hagger
25/3/2023 07:44:47 pm

Excellent!

Dave and Garry you have smoked out Malcolm Smith who of all people is not brain dead like his financial supporters, but someone who should know better than to take the bait and swallow it wholesale.

Malcolm, this is what you have written under the name of 'Peter Moore' ....

Posted by Peter Moore on 25/3/2023, 16:45:08, in reply to "Bing Chat Bots "AI" et al"
Thanks Guys,

I have taken advice concerning Mervyn and am confident that I am not the only person who he has targeted to have done so. I was told that I surely have been libelled/defamed with direct accusations of fraud and obtaining money under false pretences.
What is particularly hurtful is the suggestion that I am ' topping up my mechanics income ' by these alleged means. I gave up the motor trade in 1998. I do not earn and never have earned anything from Radio Caroline. The job consumes all my time and costs me money.
I am told that one cannot plead not guilty to libel by reason of insanity. My lawyer states, sensibly, that Mervyn does not think he is insane and that while a ' cease and desist ' letter may work on a person who is just mistaken or has over stepped the mark, that Mervyn may view it as a challenge and become even more extreme.
This would oblige me to act but then even when the case is proven in my favour I would not recover all my costs and if any award of damages was made there is no certainty that I would ever receive them.

Maybe I will just suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune until such time as Mervyn's brain implodes or he gets treatment or is sectioned.

PM.

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Malcolm you are really daft in posting that tripe.

Your claims about what I wrote are not true, but your ideas of libel are really weird and must have come from someone like the puddin' basin's relation who told him to steal from me and my associates, claim it as his own work, and even say that I contributed, then blame that remark on Hans Knot, and not only that, he is promoting theft of intellectual property on behalf of your operation.

Then you come along and call Ronan O'Rahlly a crook and yet use him as your mentor. You even bring up the Caroline Kennedy myth on your radio site - which you tell the Charity people has nothing to do with the ship - which seems to be in your name but you are raising money for it as though it is a sort of national treasure that the public can financially have an interest in.

After slagging off O'Rahilly, you then wrap your arms around this dead geezer. I have yet to find a direct admission by him about the Caroline myth, but I do know where it came, who dreamed it up and why they promoted it in 1965. That's right, 1965, not 1964.

Malcolm I have told you this before. I don't give a flying hoot about YOUR ship and YOUR little radio operations. What I do care about are your LIES in trying to tie that garbage to another venture that took place between 1964-1967.

I ask you to please stop LYING, stop DECEIVING (stick with one identity), and STOP trying to link YOUR ventures to the Radio Caroline of 1964-1967.

You have specifically called me all kinds of nasty names but not once, not once have you DARED TO CHALLENGE THE FACTS that my associates have researched and published in reputable publications.

Malcolm, I enjoy your daft rants and those of the idiots surrounding you on the two radio boards. I mean, Garry Stevens one minute praised me, and the next minute attacked me. He is totally lacking any sort of moral backbone. The others on those two boards (with the exception of one person I can think of on the Dave Board), seem to lack the ability to read.

Not one of them, not a single idiotic twerp on those boards has EVER challenged a fact, they have merely attacked ME, without even knowing whether it was me or one of my colleagues who wrote something they objected to.

You were a grease monkey, you admit that and there is nothing wrong at all with being one. I am sure you were good at what you did. But you have wrapped your future in one that began with a CRIMINAL TRIAL in Philadelphia where the main defendant went to prison.

Even OEM published details of that episode. In days gone by John Burch and Chris England asked for and received my help investigating the origins and management of the Ross Revenge, which you now have under your control.

The puddin' basin guy may publish on demand stupid stuff about Ronan O'Rahilly and stick with his nonsense. YOU on the other hand try to smear O'Rahilly and praise O'Rahilly using two names. On Companies House you really slipped up and pretend that those two names represented two different people.

I have written this before: Stick to your current operation which I don't care if you do call it 'Radio Caroline', but DON'T go on television and tell viewers that it is named after Caroline Kennedy and linked back to 1964.

YOU know that is a LIE.

STOP lying and stick to trying to run your own operation, b

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Andre Walker
25/3/2023 08:40:26 pm

When not on WNKR I was a hair stylist to the stars

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Yes MIke, please bring back more rubbish about the truth in all these CCR Website books that sell to hearts and minds so well that everyone has now lost heart in free radio if it ever will exist?
25/3/2023 08:44:08 pm

AgB21/3/2023 12:40:01 am
nice response mike,its a shame you have let your once interesting forum become a refuge for the snipers,trolls and idiots from other places you should continue to be more strict on your moderation and return radio now and then too its former incarnation.
AgB.

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Mervyn Hagger
27/3/2023 12:50:02 pm

Posted by Peter Moore on 27/3/2023, 11:19:30, in reply to "Re: Bing Chat Bots "AI" et al"
Hi,
I guess that this ' thing ' you are consulting will look for widely published/available info and will thus give you the widely accepted version of Ronan and the station i.e. how it was founded.
It is Haggers assertion that the widely held views are wrong.

RESPONSE: YOU ARE CORRECT.

This raises three points for me, the first being that even if he is 100% correct, nobody actually cares.

RESPONSE: YOU ARE WRONG

Next, it is ' his opinion ' that the present day Radio Caroline has nil connection to the original Caroline.

RESPONSE: YOU ARE CORRECT

All the libellous spite and venom that he throws at me is based on a personal opinion.

REPONSE: YOU ARE WRONG. FILING FALSE INFORMATION WITH A UK GOVERNMENT ENTITY CARRIES A PENALTY IF CONVICTED AND YOU HAVE CONVICTED YOURSELF.

Finally, when people ask me what I did for a living, the easy and short answer is ' motor mechanic '. In fact I started work in 1964 for the firm that made Zenith, Solex and Stromberg carburettors. After a while I started to design and devise products to sell, then I became the technical advisor for the company. Then I wrote articles and books about how carburettors functioned and then resigned to start my own firm selling and repairing these products. I sold my business in 1998.

RESPONSE: WONDERFUL

So if Hagger was actually the forensic researcher he presents himself as being, he would surely know all of the above, but in fact he knows nothing. If he can be so wrong about me, why should anything else he says be believed ?

RESPONSE: I ONLY CARE ABOUT YOU BECAUSE YOU LYING TO THE PUBLIC AND SOLICITING MONEY FOR YOUR LIES. ON THE OTHER HAND I AM NOT SOLICITING MONEY AND I HAVE COURT ROOM EVIDENCE TO BACK UP ALL OF MY CLAIMS

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Mervyn Hagger
27/3/2023 01:07:54 pm

Let's talk about LIBEL.

This is what the idiot breed of anoraks all keep yelling about while they libel me.

The main "victim" (other than me) seems to be either Paul Alexander Rusling who STOLE from me, and his side-kick (maybe his boss), Malcom Smith who calls himself Peter Moore.

Malcolm seems to think that I care about the details of his life as a grease monkey. I do not. But I do care that he is running a con job soliciting money from the public for a hulk and a twin operation radio endeavor, one of which he calls 'Radio Caroline'.

He also says that I claim that the stories in circulation about Ronan O'Rahilly and the 'Radio Caroline' of 1964-1967 are fabricated nonsense, and he is correct.

So let us examine that word 'libel' and read its definition: "a published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation."

The first question then is, did Paul Rusling steal from me and the answer is yes.

One of the first people to point this out was George Saunders who phoned to tell me that my material is now in Rusling's book.

Now how about Ronan O'Rahilly? Well, first of all he has no reputation because he is dead. But one authority I can turn to for calling him various names that amount to a man lacking morals, is none other than Malcom Smith.

The problem with Malcolm Smith is that he blasts O'Rahilly for lying and cheating and then Malcolm Smith turns around and does the same thing by quoting Ronan O'Rahilly.

What can Malcolm do?

a) Remove O'Rahilly's picture and the nonsense about Caroline Kennedy from your web site;
b) Make it plain on your two web sites (hulk and station) that these are your own ventures which have nothing in common with events of 1964 to 1967 which used the name of 'Radio Caroline'.

There, do you feel better now, Malcolm.

Follow my suggestions and we can be pals, oh, but stop plugging that stupid Rusling rubbish.

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Can we be friends?
29/3/2023 11:48:22 am

Personally I would not want to become 'pals' with someone who continually libels me in print and harasses me on Youtube.

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Ownership of the Ross Revenge
28/3/2023 01:12:14 pm

It is clear that according to the court records in the United States that investors paid for the Ross Revenge and Ronan O'Rahilly personally syphoned off some of that money. The ship eventually slipped out of Spain and the financial entanglement was never resolved. Now Malcom Smith claims to be the owner via an Admiralty ruling, but that In Rem decision does not necessarily wipe away all outstanding financial claims. Complicating matters is the fact that Malcolm Smith has set up a charity which is raising money for the Ross Revenge. But who claims ownership, the Charity or Smith or the original investors?

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Stick to the issue
28/3/2023 07:21:47 pm

Now Malcolm Smith is trying to suggest that MH is investigating his life as a grease monkey. That is diversion from the issue. That's why they hired O'Rahilly. That's why they dreamed up the 1965 nonsense about Caroline Kennedy. But the fact is that MH wants to know now, do you own the Ross Revenge, or does the Charity own the Ross Revenge, or do the USA folks who paid for it in the James Ryan criminal affair still have a claim on it? No one, absolutely no one is interested in the life of Malcolm Smith as a grease monkey.

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For those who can't read
29/3/2023 11:43:59 am

From the Ross Revenge website:

"Some years of legal investigation were needed to unravel this until the Admiralty Court decided that she belonged to me. The new status enabled us to start the equally complex process of creating a Charity which now exists, with a charity number, trustees and a bank account, all under the title MV ROSS REVENGE ( Home Of Radio Caroline ). The ship has been handed to the charity."

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For those who CAN read
31/3/2023 07:48:54 am

You wrote that the "Ross Revenge web site" ... stated that "The ship has been handed to the charity".

You means Malcolm Charles Smith made a donation to the charity that HE controls?

Where is the paperwork?

For that to happen someone had to transfer legal ownership, you can't walk into a charity shop and donate a ship.

Obviously this is more anorak nonsense.

Show us how this was accomplished.

How's that again?
1/4/2023 02:53:29 pm

If I can't read how am I going to read your can't read message?

James McGregor
29/3/2023 01:55:43 am

I am definately getting out of this now before I end up like that poor girl who was buried in a basement by a billionaries son from Yeman

No Extradition Treaty Here

Anoraks are mad

I have no skeletons in the closet

I love Peter Moore's reincaranation extention of the bloodloines of the legend of the world famous Radio Caroline - and I make no secret of my moist short pants to chops about it

I think a trio conflab with Peter, Merve and myself on a comfortable house boat hammock would be extremely interesting to say the least

Perhaps tickets would not be sold under threat of free house arrest?

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Mervyn Hagger
29/3/2023 12:40:04 pm

James, you do not seem to understand WHY I am working on this project. It is because there are some stories that the Establishment cannot begin to unravel, because, like a pebble thrown into a pond, the ripples radiate in all directions. So to explain one part means explaining other parts as well. So the door slams shut and then the machine either ignores what people like me are doing, or, if we become too much of a threat, they then resort to might make right. But everyone is born to die and like the parable of the talents, I am not one of the recipients of life who is too afraid to live life as an individual, and the gift of human life is something that no human being has ever been able to create on their own by using a method other than male sperm plus female gestation. In other words human beings are not very smart and some are very stupid by thinking that anyone of them equates to a Creator. Human beings ultimately can neither create nor destroy. All was here before each person is born and will be here after each person dies.

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James McGregor, James Ryan, James the Silas Boatis, who knows all confidence tricksters in ther own way
30/3/2023 06:01:42 pm

I have updated one of me with the lastest All About blogs.

A serious question is if the Caroline Brand was so criminally toxic to the effect it would be quickly state booted off the air, would not have a more sensible idea have been to remame, if not on Auguat 15 ceratainly by 1972 and onwards as another name say just off the top of my head Radio Atlantis Radio Seagull ect ? Why did Ronan perserverese with the Caroline name when according to you that actually could have been rather dangerous to him and efforts to persecute that station when a more neutral name might have been accepted to the government and dodgy backers as just a pirate radio legacy and not attracted so much attention?? I don't know. Trace the bloodline to that

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How Prosecution operates
1/4/2023 12:05:48 pm

Since prosecution is paid for by tax payers, prosecutors have to see if there are enough tax payers who want their money spent on prosecution. This is why idiots without a case are prosecuting Trump in a local State court. But there are enough local idiots willing to throw their money away in order to smear Trump.

Now while Rusling involved himself with a crook named Ryan, and O'Rahilly did the same thing, there was no tax payer base for the prosecutors to prosecute.

In the case of Charles Malcolm Smith, he has entwined himself with BBC and other media to the point that they would look really stupid if Smith is prosecuted. So the best thing to do is ignore him. The Wilson Cabinet actually reasoned with out in the instance of Roy Bates. They knew he wanted publicity for Sealand. So they ignored him.

If Bates had begun broadcasting he has already been told very quietly that they would come after him via his home at Westcliffe-on-Sea. The US sends in police guns blazing, the UK makes people disappear.

So the chances are, if Malcolm Smith keeps his FRAUD very low key, keeps working with the BBC and local media, he will get away with whatever this little man with an insignificant radio project decides to do. Eventually technology will move on to the point that his project is totally irrelevant.

If Smith moves to the Internet only, well he will then be 100% legal.

As for his hulk, well, who cares?

If it sinks and is scrapped that will be okay. If idiots fork out money to preserve it that will save them from having to get a veggy patch and digging out weeds on Sunday afternoons.

It is all about money v. (as Smith asks) "who cares"?

Where MH is different is that his aim is not targeting Smith per se, but the history books that kids will read tomorrow. A footnote about Smith will be sufficient, ditto for O'Rahilly. As for Rusling, well no one will have even heard of him in a few years, but they might read a footnote about James Ryan, the swindler that Rusling worked with.

Not that I am bothered but like James I recognise that spurious time of night
29/3/2023 08:26:09 pm

A fake charity ship on the Isle of Wight has a spurious fund rising connection with a real charity fund raising ship on Maldon. Who both have a spurious with previous owners of both ships

Peter M goes on record as saying that even if everything Mervyn Hagger says is 100% true it makes not a jot of difference

MH has called Peter a tin pot fraudster and liar

Is that now not important because it's lies or 100% true

It will not go to court at Peter's instigation because he has just admitted the case for the prosecution of Peter might be 100% true and as he has a pot to piss in he might be told to empty it out

So it does not matter, all this stale poo at the bottom of the keel haul of Malcolm

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MISTER SHOWDOWN
29/3/2023 09:38:17 pm

Go to http://www.yesternoir.org/ and answer the question: "What is Charles Malcolm Smith hiding?

We all have a right to know.

Is this an illegal swindle, or what?

You might want to drop a line to Tatiana Safonova who seems to have had her own share of problems with Smith.

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AgB the Librarian
1/4/2023 04:29:45 pm

"New books were discussed – all funds go to the Ross Revenge Preservation fund. The Ross is in urgent need of dry docking for major repairs, an expensive procedure, without that its future is uncertain.
I have just received and read hot off the press “Behind The Scenes at Radio Caroline (in the 1970s)” by Lyn Gilbert which lifts the lid on many aspects of the covert operation in those difficult days on air on (and off) from the Mi Amigo, how Ronan O’Rahilly and staff (many unpaid) kept The Lady afloat to the end, also the part played by George Harrison and other financiers, including Ronan’s film and numerous other sometimes unsuccessful ventures.
The next meeting is on Wednesday 7 June, well worth a diary note.
Mike Terry to WOR iog (2023-03-30)"

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What now?
2/4/2023 07:17:43 pm

PM's story about Caroline Kennedy is true, and although ROR was likely to rip everyone off, his story is the true story. He started R. Caroline. Bluff was called by people like Freddie Archer while Rusling sold anoraks the old story once again., and then MH started publishing on line, without charge, a very detailed and different story, and I noticed that the anoraks ran out of steam. Clearly the anoraks are reading MH online - its free - so now what happens? Is what MH is publishing - true, or is it a lie and if it is true what happens now to the story that PM is promoting as a charity? As for his radio station, maybe his own words will be applied to him = who cares about 648?

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I WANT REPARATIONS FOR BEING A SUBJECT OF HIS MAJESTY
2/4/2023 07:46:00 pm

I was born in England and made a subject (slave) of the Majesty of the British Crown and since everyone else is at it, I want reparations for being lied to and used as a subject to prop up the current King Charles III.

He didn't become a "royal" (what the hell is that?) overnight. Now here is the BBC web site today with this crap:

"Back in the UK, King Charles III is coming under pressure to say more about the Royal Family's historic role in the slave trade after his coronation in May.

The Royal African Company, set up with a charter granted by King Charles II in the 17th century, shipped thousands of enslaved Africans to the Americas.

Last year, during a meeting of Commonwealth leaders, King Charles said: "I cannot describe the depths of my personal sorrow at the suffering of so many, as I continue to deepen my own understanding of slavery's enduring impact."

But the Royal Family has offered no formal apology for Britain's participation in the slave trade."

No, this is not a joke, unless the people in the Caribbean are also "jokes".

Black lives matter now means white people pay up.

Well, being a non-black who was also subjugated by the same people that blacks are complaining about, I want to know how this idea of "monarchy" and 'royalty" gained such a foothold that we can't see that we all became 'Spares" when King Charlie III and Charlie II got their way.

We chopped off the head of Charlie I, well Charlie III, what about it?

Where's my money?

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Board Watcher link
4/4/2023 06:02:54 pm

https://radiotoday.co.uk/2023/04/crowdfunder-campaign-launched-to-save-radio-ship-ross-revenge/

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Behind the Scenes at Radio Caroline
4/4/2023 11:02:20 pm

Just finished reading Lyn Gilbert's book. She certainly has had an adventurous life. In essence, her recollections confirm what we already knew, but her personal stories of her dealings with Ronan add some flesh to the bones regarding his modus operandi. No wonder that those who did not enjoy a close relationship to him in the formative years of Radio Caroline have been unable to provide any real substance to how he operated, deals that were done and how funds were raised. He surrounded himself in mystery and even those working closely with him never knew exactly what was going on. A highly recommended book for anyone seeking to understand how his mind worked.

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Lee Gilbert Book
5/4/2023 10:23:27 am

Well, something funny here. You can buy the Lee Gilbert book about Ronan O'Rahilly in the 1970s - CHEAPER - from authentic book sellers than you can from Malcolm Smith's phony charity! Yet nothing on Smith's site says anything about making a donation when buying the book. So I guess Mike will get his chance to review this work after all.

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The Extremely GIfted David Cotter
5/4/2023 10:02:31 pm

Er, I thought you paid the RR Charity the same price that everyone is now paying? I did not realize that they asked for a lot more and you sent it and they refunded it. I guess i didn't know what I was on about because I did not know they had dropped their price. I humbly apologize for being (as usual) such a know-it-all asshole who really knows nothing at all.

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James McGregor
8/4/2023 11:38:14 pm

i must say i am a bit worried about the paypal payment form which does not specify the amount you have just given your card number about and the reciept which is just a long page of HTML with no decodable mention of the amount. Not that I can be ripped off as such because the account is so dry but the payment forms on the website do need to be better constructed. More along the lines of Mike Westons excellent web shop for bibles and snoods.

Happy 59th birthday my Lady

Long may you reign

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Mervyn Hagger
5/4/2023 08:00:24 pm

This afternoon I was in Stonehaven taking pictures of the birthplace of John Reith. I am also following up the heritage of Caroline (as in Radio Caroline), and like Reith, I am discovering that apart from myself, no one else seems to have performed this kind of original research. Meanwhile anoraks are either dying off as old farts, or too silly for words to describe their antics.

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Lee Gilbert Book
6/4/2023 07:12:54 pm

Andrew Holmes on 6/4/2023, 11:23:58, in reply to "Re: BEHIND THE SCENES AT RADIO CAROLINE (IN THE 1970'S) - Lyn Gilbert"
One clown has gone so far as to state that because the book can be bought for slightly different prices from different sellers, then this is suspicious! This idiot conveniently forgets that the costs include shipping which varies between vendors. You couldn't make it up and shows his desperation to make something out of nothing as usual and he can't even get Lyn's name right!

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Lee Gilbert
6/4/2023 07:21:11 pm

I fink u missed the point there Andrew Holmes, the post was about the SAME vendor (Malcolm Smith) and his cohorts, originally charging one price then charging another lower price. One vendor, two different prices!

Now are you still buying the Malcolm's Caroline Kennedy rubbish? Well, no wonder you can't see the wood for the trees or the con men in your radio hulk begging bowl on Radio Suffolk.

You are thick as a brick Andrew.

You hit upon the misdirect and did not see the obvious. You had better watch out when you go shopping and make sure that the salesperson is not going to charge you one (higher) price and everyone else another (lower) price.

Signed Lee Gilbert

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No it wasn't
7/4/2023 08:05:36 pm

"You can buy the Lee Gilbert book about Ronan O'Rahilly in the 1970s - CHEAPER - from authentic book sellers than you can from Malcolm Smith's phony charity! "

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SNP AND THE ROSS
6/4/2023 07:26:02 pm

Fred Bramley got it right. The question is, have YOU seen the Admiralty Bill of Sale to Malcom (T&Cs) and have YOU seen the sale of the Ross Revenge Bill of Sale from Malcolm to the charity?

No?

Have a quick word with the SNP, this sort of money juggling got them a raid by the police. How soon will it be before Malcolm Smith is raided?

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Is there no end insight to this mans's fantasy land
9/4/2023 08:36:45 pm

Posted by Paul Rusling on April 7, 2023, 5:40 pm, in reply to "Re: Caroline north easter schedule"
When Ronan had charge of Manx Radio (see the Bible) in the early 70s, he had Pye survey the daytime coverage of the new 10kW transmitter, which showed reception up to Manchester, well inland over Lancashire and many parts of Wales as well as SW Scotland

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Paul Rusling Rubbish Retraction
11/4/2023 11:31:25 am

This guy lies and steals, doesn't he? (I mean the puddin' basin guy.) ROR never had control of Manx Radio and Pye never conducted any daytime coverage survey for him. In fact, Pye DID NOT OWN THE STATION.

Malcolm Smith is actually helping the BBC
9/4/2023 07:54:15 pm

Malcolm Smith is now using BBC local radio to raise money for a hulk whose legal ownership is in EXTREME doubt.

He is also supporting the BBC version of events on their own site by linking HIS 'Caroline/heart' symbol with 1964-1967.

How does this work?

Well it starts with 2 University of Sussex propagandists who have written for the BBC and its web site which is playing the SAME game as Malcolm Smith.

Smith claims linkage to 1964, and the BBC claims linkage to 1922.

Smith tries to fool the press into giving him credibility. The BBC told people that it was 100 years old when it was only 95 years old. Why? To bury the fact that a different BBC existed before this current BBC.

It is a deceptive fraud.

It is one gigantic fraud. The university people have even published their own book to explain this bogus history. In doing so the BBC is also aiding and abetting the deceptive FRAUD of Malcolm Smith.

This game began in 1990 with Ian Cowper Ross and his novel which he then plugged on BBC TV in 1991, and implied that it was a matter of fact - not fiction.

That is when the floodgates opened and all of rubbish in book form began to appear with authors such as Ray Clark, Paul Rusling all the rest.

So what happened in 1990 that began this game?

It was the new Broadcasting Act which put an end to the CRIMINAL offshore operation from the USA that called itself 'Radio Caroline'!

Not one of the hack writers, phony historians and propagandists for the BBC have told anyone about what this Act really was, and the anoraks are just too stupid to look for the answers themselves.

The 1990 law is actually based upon a series of laws from the 1800s that Gordon McLendon thought was still in force. So Allan Crawford sent Ronan O'Rahilly to Texas with the legal Opinion of a QC to show that it was no longer a part of British law. But McLendon did not believe him and wanted strict proof before he would lease the Mi Amigo to Crawford.

And that is the reason why another ship named 'Caroline' came on the air with same eponymous name. The entire operation was named after a model whose dad owned a very influential publication and whose grandpa was a mighty political and publishing voice in London during the beginning of the 20th Century.

Not only that, this man was part of the scene that gave rise to Captain Plugge on the famous sponsored radio broadcast over MZX by Dame Melba.

The Royal Navy was not amused and wanted to halt these frivolous uses of wireless broadcasting. In America the U.S. Navy did the same thing. In America they failed, in the UK the Royal Navy succeeded.

But it's like trying to de-Nazify goons talking to anoraks and Malcolm Smith has no qualms, no sense of morality or honesty - because his mentor Ronan Rahilly lacked those qualities of human decency. Anorak Nazis lack brains along with everything else.

But the BBC thanks you for rewriting its past and Malcolm like any huckster preacher keeps telling his stupid flock to put their silent offerings (no coins please) in his collection plate.

Thank you says Malcolm, and his con job now continues in lock-step with the BBC.

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Mervyn Hagger's letter to The Charity Commission
12/4/2023 09:11:24 am

I look forward to reading a full transcript of the reply Mervyn Hagger receives from the Commission.. If he doesn't publish it, then it is safe to assume that he did not get the response he was hoping for, unless of course, they dismiss it on the grounds that it is some sort of joke.




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"I"
12/4/2023 08:54:18 pm

"I" who is too scared to identify himself has assumed that Mervyn Hagger wrote a letter to someone. Really? Who was that?

In case an anorak wonders, here is a clarification
9/4/2023 08:02:57 pm

"Not only that, this man was part of the scene that gave rise to Captain Plugge on the famous sponsored radio broadcast over MZX by Dame Melba."

A slight editing glitch.

It should read:

Not only that, this man was part of the scene that gave rise to the famous sponsored radio broadcast over MZX by Dame Melba.

In turn that event and the same British broadcasting pioneer was directly linked to the USA-Mexican border blasters which Captain Plugge used to up the power potential of his second, but short-lived (due to WWII) station called Radio Normandie

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Beach Head Invasion
11/4/2023 10:49:44 pm

I am overjoyed that the Easter fundraising has now raised a yet undisclosed solar panel of an amount of charitably laundered plonkers

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Another Retro Storage Box speaks
11/4/2023 11:00:59 pm

Re: Caroline on MW

Posted by neilgates on April 11, 2023, 7:46 pm, in reply to "Caroline on MW"
It did finish on medium wave on 5 November 1991. The transmitter was switched off by me at approximately 10 AM and it has not resumed since.

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Malcom Smith does not want you to know this link
12/4/2023 09:40:20 am

http://www.yesternoir.org/ - Check it out for yourself.

A U.S. criminal court heard this case of fraud involving Ronan O'Rahilly and and the Ross Revenge. O'Rahilly did not attend the trial. A con man who swindled U.S. citizens into paying for the Ross Revenge was sent to prison.

Malcolm Smith says that a UK Admiralty Court gave him (personally) the Ross Revenge, but it could not give it to him 'free an clear' of foreign claims such as those arising in the USA.

But who is Malcolm Smith trying to fool?

He is raising money for a charity, but did Smith sell the hulk to the charity? Look at the trouble the SNP has got into with this game of hiding money accounts.

This entire operation by Malcolm Smith is a deceitful and totally untruthful lie intended to solicit money from the public.

No wonder Smith and the BBC are working hand-in-glove because both of them are playing exactly the same game.

The name of their game is FRAUD.

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Newsround
18/4/2023 01:04:03 pm

The SNP is now in a bit of trouble as is the reputation of the Radio Caroline Moral Compass Point

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Shaun Atkins (I forgot to tell myself what I told you before)
13/4/2023 02:04:29 pm

Shaun Atkins23/3/2023 05:57:48 pm
I think that the kindest course of action is to ignore you, which is what most people do and I will do the same henceforth.

Except I have researched the law and you are right. A British court cannot wipe away foreign claims, and Malcolm Smith never posted a bill of sale from his to his charity, and lots more, including the fact that I don't know what the hell I am going on about when discussing libel.

I admit it. I am a 100% certified fool. A loony tune. A worthless bit of flesh.

Please save me from myself and the likes of Malcolm Smith.

With deep and love and affection and all humility

Yours Shaun

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Point of order
13/4/2023 11:02:42 pm

You presume that the vessel was sold to the charity rather than merely ownership passed to it. No sale = no bill of sale.

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Huh?
14/4/2023 10:32:52 am

Where is this post you are referring to? I don't see it in context anywhere.

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